Posted on 10/30/2011 2:42:16 PM PDT by Kevmo
Yes, must be a conspiracy. Couldn’t possibly be that Rossi looks like a scam artist, could it?
Have you read the Kensington University C&D letters yet? Still standing behind your fake diploma-flaunting man Rossi?
Additionally, on the au.af.mil (Air Force University) site, there is a page discussing NAVAL SPACE COMMAND (page dated 1995):
Naval Space Command also serves as the naval service component of the United States Space Command (USSPACECOM), established in 1985. Component responsibilities include operating assigned space systems to provide surveillance and warning, as well as providing spacecraft telemetry and on-orbit engineering support.Something that could provide high levels of energy for long periods of time without the risks involved in lofting radioactive materials has obvious military space applications.
What is that supposed to mean? Steam is water above 212 degrees Fahrenheit at sea level. If I read the post correctly there was a "large generator" there to provide heat to the lab building. What became of the "475,000 watts of power continuously generated for five hours". That should have been enough to have the spectators in the lab running around in their skivvies.
"Only steam usable for a turbine" is techno-babble. Steam is steam. If you can't heat the room with it, it won't drive a turbine either.
Regards,
GtG
I am eager to see more through testing done on this system, especially the data on the quality of steam produced.
***The demo was for his own customer. The customer was satisfied and took possession of the device. That is, unless the customer was part of a dog & pony show as the seagulls proclaim (without evidence).
And even the tiny bit of steam produced was useless for a turbine since what they called “steam” was just water vapor, steam is invisible and must be under pressure for a turbine.
What they have is a water heater, a tea kettle.
Okie, well, that certainly addressed calculations of subtracting W(e) from W(t) and wondering if we'd ever see some data about the quality of steam produced. Glad that's all cleared up. Thanks for the seagull reply.
Yes, must be a conspiracy. Couldn’t possibly be that Rossi looks like a scam artist, could it?
***Your position requires that it be a conspiracy.
To quote a recent article...
A genuine company, having taken delivery of such a thing, now belongs to the rare club that knows for a fact if this is real or not. If it is real then that knowledge on its own is extraordinarily valuable – either as a means to invest in the tech while confusion confounds potential competitors or as intelligence to inform playing the markets (assuming it is not a Government body or NGO). Shorting (for instance) a sector dominated by high-risk energy projects like the Canadian Tar Sands (or any other project where the value depends on high oil prices well into the future) would not be considered insider trading because all of this information is out there on the Net and because that information is about potentially competing technology and not the target companies themselves.
Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps, created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos, bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow, arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real, got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field, got Bushnell to make a fool of himself, sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan – the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes and knows that they will just take his word for it and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out – then all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses.
Why not go to a room heater? Other than the fact it would make a small building burn down from the heat. A half a megawatt of power is a Whole lot of heat. Now you can't just generate a half a megawatt and ignore it, you HAVE to use it or you can't measure it. Normally you would just place a resistive load on it to dispel it as... heat. Yet the room is still cold!
I think that was a brainfart sentence written in the article by a nontechnical author. Those who are current on the technology know that Rossi’s device was not suitable for steam to turn a turbine efficiently. It was basically suitable for producing heat. To get to the point where you can efficiently run a turbine the steam needs to get to the 400 degrees C range. That will be the next step for Rossi.
Here’s another story that didn’t go far: Gunnerman’s “A-21” fuel
It was a demo device for Rossi’s customer. The customer seems to have signed off on this demo and taken possession of the device. Apparently it generated enough heat for the customer to buy it.
Thanks for the seagull reply.
***Well, that’s a first.
Now if you wanted to cheat, you start the system with the lower unit full of air, and back drain water from the over head tank into it so that you “boil off” a few hundred pounds of water and call that heat generated.
This way you can generate massive ammounts of heat, without anything actually getting very warm.
Way too much scam like stuff going on. Without weighing the “reactor” before and after and checking for a drain tube to a floor drain somewhere this is all right up there with PT Barnham “science”. Way way too easy to set this up.
I can think of a dozen publications that would print this story.
***Well, then, post the list and let’s get in touch with them.
>>...First off, there is no such thing as the “U.S. Navy space and warfare division”. lol!...<<
It’s real enough for me. I’ve done contract work there:
(www.spawar.navy.mil)
Without weighing the “reactor” before and after
***That sort of thing has been done several times in Rossi’s prior demos and if the customer who paid for it did not weigh it this time around then he’s simply a fool. Worse than that, because there are plenty of us who are less qualified to verify this thing who would think to weigh it. If Rossi is that much of a genius at finding idiotic customers then he is a master scam artist, and at least that part of it will make a good story.
Complete gibberish from Kevmo, as usual.
Oh, by the way, what was your explanation for Rossi’s fraudulent university diploma again? I forgot.
You must be part of the conspiracy, then. /s
Oh, by the way, what was your explanation for Rossi’s fraudulent university diploma again?
***I posted it. Oh, gee, how could that have happened, that you did not read it? You mean, there is stuff about LENR that you have not read but want to seagull all over it anyways?
Here’s a question you will not answer: How many times has the Pons-Fleischmann effect been replicated? Oh, I know, I know, if you bother to answer it there will be a ton of couched terms, backtracking, gibberish, non-sequiturs and bowl sheet, but no real answer to such a simple question.
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