Posted on 10/30/2011 2:42:16 PM PDT by Kevmo
“Since we don’t use oil to generate power for the grid, this is no threat to the oil companies. “
Natural gas.
Something like that.
You tell me. Or did you not read the article?
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Well, I’m very sorry that you wish to silence skeptical discussion of Andrea Rossi’s outlandish claims, rather than discuss them on the merits. Perhaps there is another discussion forum, one catering to perpetual motion and free energy scams, which would be more to your liking?
What they have is a water heater, a tea kettle.
So they calculated energy output by measuring temp into the reactor, temp out and flow rate? That seems straightforward enough. Why not just shut off the output and let the water temp increase until you produce steam? If they truly have produced 475 Kw over 5 hours (95 Kwh or 324,000 BTU), that's more then enough energy to boil water. For crying out loud, you can boil water in a paper bag with a candle!
Regards,
GtG
PS BSME 45 years ago, enough thermodynamics to know there is no such thing as a free lunch. If this thing really works, prove it by demonstration or quit messing around with gullible people.
Not at all. And it is that sort of jumping to unwarranted conclusions that are the bulk of the hype about this device.
The whole point is that no one can demonstrate how any heat other than what was put in is produced.
What did the testing of the spent fuel demonstrate? When has a legit test been done?
Act III has yet to be written but the outlines are clear.
I have no desire to silence skeptical discussion. I just don’t like seagulls. You can understand that, can’t you?
I’ve been a freeper for a long time. Probably longer than the admin who removed my post. We used to have some very rough & tumble discussions. Now we can’t even use fun and innocuous insults from blogthings.
Why should I even answer posts that so distort the facts on the ground that they amount to lies? You couldn’t discuss Rossi’s claims on their own merits if it meant putting money in your pocket.
How is pointing out the FACT that Rossi advertises a degree from a known diploma mill, which has been shut down, a “distort[ion of] the fact on the ground [so] that they amount to lies?”
Does Rossi claim the degree? YES. Is the degree bogus? YES. Was the so-called “university” shut down by the authorities? YES. This is black-and-white, unambiguous, objective fact.
The whole point is that no one can demonstrate how any heat other than what was put in is produced.
***That evidence has been posted multiple times on LENR threads and it is just glossed over, usually by “it’s a fraud” type of comments.
What did the testing of the spent fuel demonstrate?
***It demonstrates how much fuel was burned. DUHH.
When has a legit test been done?
***There have been more than 14,700 replications of LENR, in particular the Pons-Fleischmann effect.
I have no desire to answer posts to you, only to have them removed.
And so it seems that Mr. Kevmo cannot stand the heat in his own kitchen. Numerous posters have brought to your attention the many problems with Rossi’s methods, as well as the educational fraud in Rossi’s biography.
You don’t like the message, so you would have the messengers shot and their posts removed. Sounds like censorship to me, and if you advocate censorship, this is probably the wrong forum for you.
Refute their contentions on the thread. Just knock off the seagull nonsense. When you start off a thread with flame-baiting, guess what? You get a lot of flaming.
You don’t like the message, so you would have the messengers shot and their posts removed.
***You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. It was my post that was removed, as innocuous as a soft feathery useless flying animal reference.
Thank you.
If you review these LENR threads, you’ll see that we were getting flamed long before I started threads with seagull references.
If you had responded when you were pinged you could have avoided these supposed flames that so concern you.
At any rate, I do what I am told.
There have been more than 14,700 replications of LENR, in particular the Pons-Fleischmann effect.Ah, I think I see the disconnect. You keep trying to insert into the discussion that Rossi is just one of the legitimate LENR researchers. He isn't. He's out to make a quick buck, er, Lira (I guess these days it's a quick Euro).
LENR (formerly "cold fusion") is a wonderful area for scam artists. For 20 years, researchers have been trying, without success, to develop a good theory or produce a solid, repeatable experiment. Everyone has heard of "cold fusion" but no one knows what it is.
Then, along comes Rossi who, not only has figured it all out, but is ready to build commercial generators. He has now spent almost a year generating all kinds of P.R. (which you have dutifully posted, ad nauseum, here), but hasn't allowed anyone to perform any serious tests on the device.
You said in an earlier thread that Rossi had a "five year backlog of orders" for his E-Cat device, which contradicts the many statements you and other believers have made that there's no possible scam because there are no potential victims. If your comment was correct, then it sounds like he has quite a list of people willing to give him money for something they may not get for 5 years or so (if ever). For a con artist, that's a "target rich environment".
All you have to do to understand why the AP is unlikely to EVER cover the Rossi story, is to remember that the AP is now and has been owned by the Saudis for quite some time.
When was the spent fuel on this 1 Mw unit tested? What was the result?
Without knowing exactly what the secret catalyst is no can reproduce the Rossi device process. But no one needs to, right? They have Rossi’s word!
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