Posted on 10/30/2011 2:42:16 PM PDT by Kevmo
BREAKTHROUGH POWER TEST A SUCCESS, BUT A.P. SITS ON IT
by Joe Shea
AR Correspondent
Bradenton, Fla .
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BRADENTON, Fla., Oct. 30, 2011 -- If you went to Google tonight and searched for the terms "E Cat Rossi Associated Press" you'd get 1,430,000 results from blogs, Web sites and magazines like Wired.com (UK edition). That number will grow .
Most are about how an Associated Press reporter attended the demonstration of a device - as the exclusive media person present during the whole test - that proceeded to generate 475,000 watts of power continuously for five hours with no input and just its secret Low Energy Nuclear Reaction device - a cold fusion reactor, in plain terms - providing power for the people who need it most - this world's billions of poor and hungry human beings.. AP Science writer Peter Svensson with Peswiki founder Sterling Allen at the workshops of Italian inventor and electrical engineer Andrea Rossi in Bologna, Italy. They were at Friday's final demonstration of a 1Mw cold fusion reactor that generated 470Kw of energy without any power input. Svensson had exclusive access during the test. The AP is sitting on the story, Joe Shea suspects. Photo: Sterling Allan/Peswiki There is substantial skepticism about Rossi and the reactor, and one critic has noted the inventor has had several brushes with the law over get-rich-quick schemes, the latest in the '90s, but always got short sentences and never went to jail. He would not be the first important inventor with an arrest record .
At the demonstration on this past Friday, Oct. 28, there was a large generator outside his workshop with cables running into the room where the demonstration was conducted. Rossi has explained to Pewwiki founder Sterling Allan that it was "absolutely cold" in the workshop and the generator was needed for heat in the fairly large space (the E Cat produces only steam usable for a turbine). Most of the videos of the demonstration show Rossi in a thin blue dress shirt, and one person present told me tonight it was "quite chilly" at the event. Most people are wearing jackets or sweaters inside, so that seems a plausible explanation. The A.P. has not yet reported anything, so we remain at least partly in the dark. In the video at left, below, sound of the generator is heard throughout, while the E Cat actually operates in complete silence. Touching it, I'm told, once can feel something bubblinside - apparently the water that makes the steam that is measured as output. The Event: Rossi E Cat Demo
Live Demo of 1Mw Cold Fusion Reactor
As for the crimes, I confess that I have been convicted of far worse and have gone to county jail once, at 16. At the same time, I've been on Page 1 in the Reader's Digest (March 1968), was invited to the White House to see the President, took the Brazilian Ambasador to dinner, was on the Hollywood LAPD Community-Police Advisory Board and also won a landmark Supreme Court First Amendment case, Shea v. Reno; I go to church every Sunday and try very hard to be a good person .
Under the circumstances that have prevailed in Rossi's life, I can see how desperation might drive a brilliant man to finagle for wealth in ways the courts always forgave. They forgave me for breaking into a cigarette machine, too, and Gov. Henry Bellmon pardoned me when I was 19. With 30 others, I invented serious journalism on the Internet, which is no small thing, when we began the American Reporter in 1995. This man, identified as Domenico Fioravanti, acted on behalf of the buyer in the transaction that purchased the 1Mw E Cat reactor for an unknown price and trucked it away. An Olympic gold medalist shares the same name. A printed signature on the transaction document was crossed out but still partly visible. It seemed to spell the abbreviation for "Colonel." Photo: Matt Lewans/NyTeknik Perhaps, like me, Rossi is a different man today. His scientific colleagues and supporters are legion, and they seem to think so. There have been no entries for Rossi in the police blotter since 1997, 14 years ago, according to his major critic, who admits he is paid for his work but will not say who pays. No one pays for our work except Google AdSense, the Benson County Farmer's News and the Progressive Populist .
But I suspect the world will wait a long time for the A.P. story. It appears, at least, that we've all been cheated of progress once again. The test was for a customer - his first name was "Colonel" - who immediately hooked up the 20-ft container it was placed in and drove it away. It is the A.P., after all, with its thousands of news outlets around the globe, which can really tell the world what has happened .
Ironically, now just a day later, 1.7 million people are without power in the blizzard hitting the Northeast, the New York Times reports. It has no story on the Rossi device as a home heater because the AP didn't write one yet. After you purchase it, the Rossi device, which is intended for homes and factories, will supply electricity for free forever. The Internet gave the U.S. economy a helluva jolt, but the E Cat would also keep 1.7 million people - an awful lot of broke families and hungry children among them - from shivering through this long cold night .
The technology has been vetted by people as diverse as scientists of U.S. Navy space and warfare division, NASA Chief Scientist Dennis Bushnell, Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson, the chairman of the energy committee of the Swedish Royal Academy of Sciences - who helps name the Nobel Prize winner in several sciences - and even the head of the Swedish Skeptics Society, there has not been a peep out of the A.P. since .
This reporter, in fact, was warned by someone named Jerome on its national desk in the early hours of Saturday morning not to be too quick to believe an A.P. Reporter was there - although his name, Peter Svensson, and picture with other journalists appears on some of those sites tonight - and I was criticized for "driving A.P. coverage" of the event .
Since the E Cat is just as important as the invention of the radio, the Internet, the light bulb and the atom bomb, and since - as DOE spokesman Sean Murphy told reporters in 2009 about the device's fundamental element, hydrogen - so it can completely replace oil by 2050, this reporter thought he was doing the A.P. a favor when he called up their national desk and told them about it just 30 hours or so before the test .
Even the fact that the test was performed for an unidentified customer whose representative, a man named Domenico Fioravanti, after the demonstration immediately bought and paid for it (for an undisclosed sum), has not persuaded the A.P. to risk shame, scorn and the rage of oil companies to do its job and report on what it sent its science writer to see. The mysterious Colonel is not the guy who will do that .
Associated Press Science Editor Kit Frieden (kfrieden@ap.org) didn't answer her phone when we called, but I'll will bet you dollars to donuts 1,500 calls from A.P. members would not get her to budge .
"There are no conspiracies," an A.P. editor in London told me. We sure wonder. The reporter himself has blamed the lack of press on the scientist, Rossi, who is apparently a difficult guy to get along with. Remember this, inventors: cultivate a winning personality before you save the world with your invention, or it will die on the vine for lack of attention .
Murphy was not talking about cold fusion, then, just about hydrogen and how it will erode the trillions of dollars earned and billions in profits on which they pay they pay little or no tax .
The device that can do that, scientists and science writers and many more believe, is the cold fusion marvel Italian electrical engineer Andrea Rossi demonstrated all day long on Friday, before about 30 of them. When he immediately sold it, the University of Bologna in Italy, one of the oldest universities in the world, became the site of one of the greatest inventions in world history .
Even though it was my 3 a.m. call that got the A.P. writer sent to the demonstration, I had no stake other than deep interest in any part of it. My stake is humanity's stake: freedom from oil and all the loss, the wars and the terror it creates .
Please do your part to make certain the world finds out.
“Since we don’t use oil to generate power for the grid, this is no threat to the oil companies. “
Natural gas.
Something like that.
You tell me. Or did you not read the article?
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Well, I’m very sorry that you wish to silence skeptical discussion of Andrea Rossi’s outlandish claims, rather than discuss them on the merits. Perhaps there is another discussion forum, one catering to perpetual motion and free energy scams, which would be more to your liking?
What they have is a water heater, a tea kettle.
So they calculated energy output by measuring temp into the reactor, temp out and flow rate? That seems straightforward enough. Why not just shut off the output and let the water temp increase until you produce steam? If they truly have produced 475 Kw over 5 hours (95 Kwh or 324,000 BTU), that's more then enough energy to boil water. For crying out loud, you can boil water in a paper bag with a candle!
Regards,
GtG
PS BSME 45 years ago, enough thermodynamics to know there is no such thing as a free lunch. If this thing really works, prove it by demonstration or quit messing around with gullible people.
Not at all. And it is that sort of jumping to unwarranted conclusions that are the bulk of the hype about this device.
The whole point is that no one can demonstrate how any heat other than what was put in is produced.
What did the testing of the spent fuel demonstrate? When has a legit test been done?
Act III has yet to be written but the outlines are clear.
I have no desire to silence skeptical discussion. I just don’t like seagulls. You can understand that, can’t you?
I’ve been a freeper for a long time. Probably longer than the admin who removed my post. We used to have some very rough & tumble discussions. Now we can’t even use fun and innocuous insults from blogthings.
Why should I even answer posts that so distort the facts on the ground that they amount to lies? You couldn’t discuss Rossi’s claims on their own merits if it meant putting money in your pocket.
How is pointing out the FACT that Rossi advertises a degree from a known diploma mill, which has been shut down, a “distort[ion of] the fact on the ground [so] that they amount to lies?”
Does Rossi claim the degree? YES. Is the degree bogus? YES. Was the so-called “university” shut down by the authorities? YES. This is black-and-white, unambiguous, objective fact.
The whole point is that no one can demonstrate how any heat other than what was put in is produced.
***That evidence has been posted multiple times on LENR threads and it is just glossed over, usually by “it’s a fraud” type of comments.
What did the testing of the spent fuel demonstrate?
***It demonstrates how much fuel was burned. DUHH.
When has a legit test been done?
***There have been more than 14,700 replications of LENR, in particular the Pons-Fleischmann effect.
I have no desire to answer posts to you, only to have them removed.
And so it seems that Mr. Kevmo cannot stand the heat in his own kitchen. Numerous posters have brought to your attention the many problems with Rossi’s methods, as well as the educational fraud in Rossi’s biography.
You don’t like the message, so you would have the messengers shot and their posts removed. Sounds like censorship to me, and if you advocate censorship, this is probably the wrong forum for you.
Refute their contentions on the thread. Just knock off the seagull nonsense. When you start off a thread with flame-baiting, guess what? You get a lot of flaming.
You don’t like the message, so you would have the messengers shot and their posts removed.
***You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. It was my post that was removed, as innocuous as a soft feathery useless flying animal reference.
Thank you.
If you review these LENR threads, you’ll see that we were getting flamed long before I started threads with seagull references.
If you had responded when you were pinged you could have avoided these supposed flames that so concern you.
At any rate, I do what I am told.
There have been more than 14,700 replications of LENR, in particular the Pons-Fleischmann effect.Ah, I think I see the disconnect. You keep trying to insert into the discussion that Rossi is just one of the legitimate LENR researchers. He isn't. He's out to make a quick buck, er, Lira (I guess these days it's a quick Euro).
LENR (formerly "cold fusion") is a wonderful area for scam artists. For 20 years, researchers have been trying, without success, to develop a good theory or produce a solid, repeatable experiment. Everyone has heard of "cold fusion" but no one knows what it is.
Then, along comes Rossi who, not only has figured it all out, but is ready to build commercial generators. He has now spent almost a year generating all kinds of P.R. (which you have dutifully posted, ad nauseum, here), but hasn't allowed anyone to perform any serious tests on the device.
You said in an earlier thread that Rossi had a "five year backlog of orders" for his E-Cat device, which contradicts the many statements you and other believers have made that there's no possible scam because there are no potential victims. If your comment was correct, then it sounds like he has quite a list of people willing to give him money for something they may not get for 5 years or so (if ever). For a con artist, that's a "target rich environment".
All you have to do to understand why the AP is unlikely to EVER cover the Rossi story, is to remember that the AP is now and has been owned by the Saudis for quite some time.
When was the spent fuel on this 1 Mw unit tested? What was the result?
Without knowing exactly what the secret catalyst is no can reproduce the Rossi device process. But no one needs to, right? They have Rossi’s word!
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