Sure makes one wonder...was the ANNE/USA at the Nachmannofs the same woman as listed in the Polk directory, as Ann S Obama?
Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma
Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines
The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.
Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.
"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.
"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."
Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."
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Sure makes one wonder...was the ANNE/USA at the Nachmannofs the same woman as listed in the Polk directory, as Ann S Obama?
Well I was just thinking it would be something that perhaps someone from that area could check out.
It has been checked out, there is nothing with that name on either side of that particular directory. Neither before nor after.
I think you need to take into account, first of all, the mistake Charlette LeFevre made, when she calculated the period as being January/February 1962. She did that by adding 18 months, the age of Mary’s child to when Mary said her daughter was born, in July 1959.
Charlette comes up with JANUARY/FEBRUARY 1962. She even has the audacity to suggest that Mary’s memory is faulty, and that her daughter MUST HAVE BEEN OLDER.
Where I come from, down-under, if you add 18 months to July 1959, that’s JANUARY 1961.
UNLESS THERE’S SOMETHING VERY STRANGE GOING ON IN SEATTLE.
That’s not a genuine question that’s flame bait.
My poor memory is really not cooperating...
Is this the only relevant listing in the Seattle Polk directory or is there one for an “Obama Anna” as well?
It is very hard to say if it is the same woman. But the hairstyle is similar. The beach/lea photo is better than the the sitting photo and both are not great.
My comment on the woman is that they are of Filipino race - not necessarily nationality. And yes the woman next to Obama is also of Filipino heritage.
As for photoshop - it is hard to tell with these supposedly old photos that have been scanned, resized, cropped, etc. They are small and poor to start with.
Doesn't pinpoint what YEAR the Polk listing came from, doesn't tell when the information for the Polk was collected, but it DOES show you that Charlette LeFevre can't add 18 months to July 1959...and make it come out right, doesn't it?
And isn't it comforting to know just WHO indentified the 'future President of the United States'?
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Charlette LeFevre - Museum Director Charlette LeFevre - has a BA in Research and Design from Wright State University. She is current Director of the museum and the previous Chat Club - a Seattle lecture group hosting authors founded in 1998.
Charlette's science background includes interning at a biomedical research lab in Yellow Springs, OH and has been a three year member of the Ohio Academy of Science. Charlette's background also includes working as a military contractor at Wright-Patterson AFB. investigating the paranormal, dabbling in Kirlian Photography and researching geological mysteries. Her photography has been used by the Discovery Channel and she has appeared on numerous radio and TV shows including Evening Magazine, KOMO and KIRO. Charlette's past inteviews have included Dennis Kucinich, Presidential candidate, Peter Jennings and Bob Gimlin of the famous Patterson-Gimlin film.
Past positions: 2008 Capitol Hill Community Council VP Currently Charlette is researching the Maury Island UFO Mystery and the associated AF B-25 Bomber Crash, the first historical U.S. Air Force crash in Kelso Washington and writes for the Seattle PI online as the Charlette Report.
Cosmic Librarian - Philip Lipson, MSLS - Masters of Library Science
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The bureaucracy of government regulated libraries could not contain him and he has devoted the last 25 years in establishing himself as an independent researcher and investigator of subjects of paranormal interest. He is available for consultations. In 1980 Philip ran for Sheriff of Wayne County, Michigan, Libertarian Party. Lucky for the library he lost. His slogan was "Behave Yourself", a motto he still lives by today - or so he says.
Both Charlette and Philip are available for presentations on the mysteries in the Northwest, the mystery of D.B. Cooper, the history of the Maury Island UFO incident and Kenneth Arnold's sighting over Mt. Rainier as well as other Northwest mysteries.
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But then, it MUST have been 1961, because the TRANSCRIPT from the U of WA commences in September, 1961. Right?
Now, does anyone STILL wonder why I find the entire scenario totally unconvincing...? Out of ALL of them, it would seem that Mary DID ORIGINALLY TELL THE TRUTH. She baby-sat for ANNA OBAMA IN JANUARY 1961.
That little snip from Polk WAS THE HAWAII ADDRESS. ANNE/USA at the Nachmannofs - did she live at the Hawaii address, where her name is shown as Ann S Obama?
IF both women are the same person, the ANNE/USA at the Nachmannopfs and the girl close beside the kenyan in the Dock image, then one might be forgiven for making the assumption that what we are looking at is the woman who is referred to as 'the wife in the Philippines from whom he is separated...'
That she may have been living at the birth announcement address, listed as Ann S Obama...and subsequently shows up in Seattle, as ANNA OBAMA, for whom Mary baby-sat in January, 1961. And she's obviously NOT Stanley Ann Dunham.
Ah, it was not my memory so much as my eyes.
A Big Huge Duh.
I got it now.
(Slinking away into obscurity...)
...don’t slink away...
What makes you think that the hardcore birthers would accept anything that does not give them what they want to see?
Two months ago it was regularly claimed that if Obama would just release the long form the issue would be settled.
You can count me OUT - I for one, never made any such claim. I expected exactly what we got, another manufactured document.
Where did I say anything about accomplishing that? Your "plain honesty" was grounded on a false premise.
I concluded long ago that he was prolly born in HI. My questions have since been focussed on whether a person born in the United States [whose father is a foreign national AND whose father's country ALSO claims him to be a natural-born subject] is a natural-born citizen of the United States. Citizen for sure, NBC [I don't know] ...
But, SCOTUS ain't got the scrotum to take the case ...
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I’m slinking back...
I mixed up the two Polk listings, I had sort of forgotten about the one in HI on Kalanianiole Hwy.
I am very proud of myself that I know how to spell it without looking.
LOL! I can’t say the same, that’s why I refer to it as ‘the birth announcement address...’
Anyway, I think I have made it as clear as I possibly can, that the girl on the Dock and at the Nachmannofs might have been the same person, and might be the wife from the Philippines from whom the kenyan was separated, and probably the very same ‘Anna’ Obama for whom Mary baby-sat in January 1961.
That would also make Ann S Obama the student who was enrolled at the University in Hawaii - who attended Russian classes with the kenyan, and her records were included in the U of WA transcript.
How they got a Mercer Island record on that transcript beats me, there has been no confirmation from that high school that Stanley Ann graduated from Mercer Island; makes me wonder if the Filipino ANN/ANNE/ANNA might have been a Mercer Island student...and Stanley Ann Dunham was really no-where in the picture, through all of this.
If the Filipino girl arrived with the kenyan as that Dock image suggests, that would have been in 1959. And that’s the girl named Ann whom Neil Abercrombie remembers...but HOW could she have graduated from Mercer Island in 1960?
Another example of the ‘composite characters’ indicated in ‘Dreams’? Combine two women and end up with one mother?
EXIT ANNA OBAMA. ENTER STANLEY ANN DUNHAM. NO WONDER ABERCROMBIE CALLS HER ANNE? WONDER IF HE’S WOKEN UP YET?
I figured out a while ago - thanks to you and the researchers - a lot of what you are saying. The U of WA trasncript has always confused me, though. The Mercer Island thing is weird, too.
And where WAS Stanley Ann? Perhaps the “she went to Cuba” thing is true after all.
Composite characters - that’s one time they told the truth!
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