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Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud
World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma

Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines

The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: betrayed; birthcertificate; birther; certificate; certifigate; corsi; eligibility; hopespringseternal; lucyhazfootball; naturalborncitizen; obama; thistimeforsure; wnd
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To: Brown Deer

B/S. Look at the document you linked as an example. It’s loaded to the gills with misshapen and deformed letters.


461 posted on 06/08/2011 6:36:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: muawiyah

Wading through loads of verbose off topic ramblings isn’t fun to me.


462 posted on 06/08/2011 6:36:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

After all, it’s the seriousness of the charge that matters.


463 posted on 06/08/2011 6:37:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Eastbound

No anomalies in that one. It must be genuine.


464 posted on 06/08/2011 6:38:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Brown Deer; Jim Robinson
I've seen some pretty incredible things happen when you scan stuff ~ some of it I can't get out of my mind no matter how hard I've tried.

Then there are print problems ~ ever make a mistake of printing out the source code for a "comma delimited" proramming document. We made the IBM chain printer smoke and cough on that, and it wasn't any good at all after that ~ NO COMMA! Wore it plumb off.

465 posted on 06/08/2011 6:40:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You are being deliberately dense.

CLINICAL nurses of the era did NOT NOT NOT have any reason to type anything!!!!!!! EVERYTHING in the clinical area was written by hand.

The chances that a clinical nurse attending Obama and his mom typed anything are as remote as finding a living Dodo. I suppose it is possible, but not at all likely.

466 posted on 06/08/2011 6:40:29 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
This is Hawaii. Dollars to doughnuts they were all retired military personnel.

I know you want Stanley Ann to have been the typist but that'd be ridiculous.

467 posted on 06/08/2011 6:44:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jim Robinson
So, your claim is that Obama’s minions used several different fonts and or type faces, variable font sizes, variable kerning, etc, etc, etc, to produce an OBVIOUSLY forged document?

Yes, that among other things.

Why would they do that? ...

I don't know the answers to any of those questions. Do you?
468 posted on 06/08/2011 6:46:06 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: muawiyah
The Black on White version is different and it shows the same sort of variations in letters that we see in Obama's document.

Nope, not at all.
469 posted on 06/08/2011 6:50:05 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: bobby.223
This entire BC fraud is just one way we can continue to battle on a legal front imo and I do not understand, with all of the overwhelming evidence of fraud, that there are still those who support quitting and demand us to give up this fight.

See, this is where you are going wrong. You have come to the conclusion that the the BC is a fraud, that there is "overwhelming" evidence of it, and that Obama should be attacked on this front.

What some of us have been trying to tell you and the other birthers who seem to believe the same thing is that there is NOT overwhelming evidence that the BC is a fraud. There is in fact no actual evidence any court is willing to accept that there is any fraud at all. Birthers have a bunch of supposed experts claiming there is fraud, but just about any conspiracy theory can drum up experts to claim said conspiracy exists. Like it or not, truthers also dig up an endless parade of experts claiming steel can't melt from jet fuel, or only a bomb could bring down WT7, etc. We know their theories are nuts so we don't pay any attention to them. This is a big world and you can find "experts" anywhere.

And this brings us to whether to raise it as an issue at all. The answer is no. As there is simply no real evidence that impresses prosecutors, courts, conservative media, politicians, etc, you are basically putting forth a bunch of crazy sounding, unfounded accusations which make the entire conservative movement look loopy. This is precisely why folks like Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, etc, won't allow this stuff on their shows. They know there is no real evidence to prove these conspiracies, and they are keenly aware that without it the whole thing makes conservatives look kooky. I mean come on, you've got Corsi on the Alex Jones show of all places peddling the idea that there are Da Vinci code like smiley faces in the "forgery" and that Donald Trump was actually in on the conspiracy.

We have been called everything under the sun and worse for our support of the constitution. I just felt like fighting back a bit I guess

You've gotta be kidding right? The echo chamber group think demonstrated by the birthers on these threads is astonishing. Few skeptics of this stuff are willing to say much because of the nasty, vicious insults thrown their way by the birther crew. Birthers routinely attempt to shout people down, call people Obots, claim they are paid Obama disruptors, etc. Birther conspiracy people are a loud, obnoxious minority and reasonable, rational conservatives have a responsibility to make it clear on these threads that not everyone buys into these conspiracy theories.

470 posted on 06/08/2011 6:50:30 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; Jim Robinson
Basically, I see anomalies of exactly the kind we see in Obama's BC.

Really? I don't see them.
471 posted on 06/08/2011 6:51:49 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Blow it up. You’ll see.


472 posted on 06/08/2011 6:54:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brown Deer

Yes. The answer is he wouldn’t.


473 posted on 06/08/2011 6:54:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
but using the same version of the little boxes and other letters in some places?

Yes, that has also happened.


474 posted on 06/08/2011 6:57:18 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Longbow1969

+1


475 posted on 06/08/2011 6:57:31 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Jim Robinson

They also said that about Nixon, Clinton and others, but when you have very close relatives in the Secret Service you know better.


476 posted on 06/08/2011 7:02:57 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: muawiyah

You are being deliberately dense,

Of course many, many nurses knew HOW to type. In the clinical area all notes and records entered into the clinical logs were done in CURSIVE!!!

At no time in my career as a nurse did any nurse type anything in the clinical area!!! My last job was in Columbus, Ohio, in 1979. ( Sorry, if I posted 1980 previously.)


477 posted on 06/08/2011 7:05:13 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Brown Deer
I said upthread...blow those up, they are similar, but those boxes are absolutely NOT identical.
478 posted on 06/08/2011 7:08:37 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: El Sordo

Uh oh. Somebody got to the boss. He’s in on the conspiracy now. We’re so screwed! This conspiracy goes all the way to the top of FR! /s


479 posted on 06/08/2011 7:13:59 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: El Sordo

Uh oh. Somebody got to the boss. He’s in on the conspiracy now. We’re so screwed! This conspiracy goes all the way to the top of FR! /s


480 posted on 06/08/2011 7:14:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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