Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma
Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines
The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.
Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.
"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.
"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."
Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
I don’t know if you were being sarcastic or not but in the fifth grade I sat at my desk, bored out of my mind, printing typefaced messages with a ball point pen. Apart from the blue ink it was nearly indiscernible from typewritten text in font and spacing.
That is a straw man. The question Irey presents is of different fonts.
A Buckhead moment this is not, IMO.
What I see is within the normal variability of typewritten characters mixed in with variations of pixelation from scanning. I don't see any structural variation of the fonts in question. And there is no technological smoking gun like we saw with Rathergate. To the contrary, the fonts are consistent with a manual typewriter banging out the characters.
If it is a forgery, this IMO doesn't prove it.
Wow! What happened there?
“...Bible recovery operations is taking place ...”
Interesting. Got any good links? I’d love to read more about that.
I think you mischaracterize me as being “anti-birther.”
If there were some real evidence of forgery, then believe me, I would be on the bandwagon.
Clinical nurses didn’t put them there.
But if I am "anti-birther," it's for the plain and simple reason that I have yet to see one solid, irrefutable argument.
When that changes, believe me, I'll happily join the choir.
Something about TREASON from wiki:
United States[edit] FederalTo avoid the abuses of the English law (including executions by Henry VIII of those who criticized his repeated marriages), treason was specifically defined in the United States Constitution, the only crime so defined. Article III Section 3 delineates treason as follows:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
However, Congress has, at times, passed statutes creating related offenses that undermine the government or the national security, such as sedition in the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts, or espionage and sedition in the 1917 Espionage Act, which do not require the testimony of two witnesses and have a much broader definition than Article Three treason. For example, some well-known spies have been convicted of espionage rather than treason.
The Constitution does not itself create the offense; it only restricts the definition (the first paragraph), permits Congress to create the offense, and restricts any punishment for treason to only the convicted (the second paragraph). The crime is prohibited by legislation passed by Congress. Therefore the United States Code at 18 U.S.C. § 2381 states “whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.” The requirement of testimony of two witnesses was inherited from the British Treason Act 1695.
One of American history’s most notorious traitors is Benedict Arnold, whose name is considered synonymous with the definition of traitor due to his collaboration with the British during the War of Independence. However, this occurred before the Constitution was written. Since the Constitution came into effect, there have been fewer than 40 federal prosecutions for treason and even fewer convictions. Several men were convicted of treason in connection with the 1794 Whiskey Rebellion but were pardoned by President George Washington. The most famous treason trial, that of Aaron Burr in 1807 (See Burr conspiracy), resulted in acquittal. Politically motivated attempts to convict opponents of the Jeffersonian Embargo Acts and the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 all failed. After the American Civil War, no person involved with the Confederate States of America was tried for treason, though a number of leading Confederates (including Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee) were indicted. Those who had been indicted received a blanket amnesty issued by President Andrew Johnson as he left office in 1869.
The Cold War saw frequent associations between treason and support for (or insufficient hostility toward) Communist-backed causes. The most memorable of these came from Senator Joseph McCarthy, who accused the Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Harry Truman administrations of “twenty years of treason.” As chosen chair of the Senate Permanent Investigations Subcommittee, McCarthy also investigated various government agencies for Soviet spy rings; however, he acted as a political fact-finder rather than a criminal prosecutor. The Cold War period saw few prosecutions for treason. On October 11, 2006, a federal grand jury issued the first indictment for treason against the United States since 1952, charging Adam Yahiye Gadahn for videos in which he appeared as a spokesman for al-Qaeda and threatened attacks on American soil.[10]
[edit] StateMost states have provisions in their constitutions or statutes similar to those in the U.S. Constitution. The Extradition Clause specifically defines treason as an extraditable offense. There have been only two documented prosecutions for treason on the state level, that of Thomas Dorr for treason against the state of Rhode Island for his part in the Dorr Rebellion, and that of John Brown for treason against the state of Virginia for his part in the raid on Harpers Ferry. In 1859, he and a few of his sons infiltrated Harpers Ferry—a military base in Virginia—in an attempt to steal the weapons that were kept there. His goal was to give these weapons to slaves, and lead them in an armed rebellion, but his attempt was unsuccessful. His sons were killed in the ensuing battle, and he was captured, and then tried, and convicted, for treason against the Commonwealth of Virginia. He was sentenced to death by hanging, which was performed on December 2, 1859.[11]
If any clinical notes exist for Obama from clinical nurses or any clinical entries into any bound logs by clinical nurses, those entries will be in **cursive**. I'd bet my entire 401K on that one.
One more thing:
I entered nursing school in 1964 and graduated in 1967,
You completely missed the point that the other poster was calling on others to do what he doesn't do so it's not likely you would recognize the difference between real or false evidence.
I think you're retired though.
I'm totally aware of that and have tried to be objective. As I noted before, except for what's typed on it (and some of that as discussed ad nauseum), Obama's looks totally different from the Nordyke twins, made a point why I thought such.
I've stopped short of pronouncing it an outright forgery. But I'm not convinced the whole thing is genuine either, maybe never will.
Yes, the computer age makes it different, have to take that into consideration. Just because I see and notice one thing doesn't make it true everywhere. Every method has its inherent shortcomings though.
You’re going to find that type written text does not fare well when scanned and digitized.
Bump.
I remember something that’s appropos; maybe someone mentioned it. Manual or Selectric/electric, the letters on the typewriter would get gunked up, like ones with closed loops, a, e, o, etc. I remember using a pin to clean them out, also think there might have been a solvent. That might explain some of the messy letters along with scanning artifacts.
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