Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma
Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines
The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.
Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.
"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.
"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."
Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Look at the capital ‘A’s on line 8 where the father’s name is. He found two ‘A’s with different typefaces in the first name BARACK.
So do you believe that a manual or electric typewriter was used at the hospital?
I only have to point to ONE item to disprove the general contention that the Nordyke birth certificates show none of the characteristics of the Obama birth certificate.
See: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/04/critics-obamas-latest-long-form-birth-certificate-is-a-fake/
Do you imagine that just before the Territorial Government shut down the US government gave them beaucoup dollars to buy all new stuff?
This is when Eisenhower was President so be careful how you answer ..... (clock is ticking) ......... or, do you imagine the Territorial government left them the old stuff!
That's all that is.
It shows up on the Nordyke birth certificates as well. Same letter E hit three different times leaves a different impression and a different density.
You can call it whatever you want but the same identical typefaces are found both Obama and Nordyke documents of that period.
Got it.
It could have happened as early as over 30 years ago when these people probably installed a brand new Xerox microfiche system.
They have been fairly cagey about what they use as a record these days ~ is it a microfiche image or is it a piece of paper. I suspect they imbed the existing microfiche image into the body of a new digital document to create the output document they pass around as the Long Form Birth Certificate.
Here's another thought for you ~ over the very long period of time since the document was created (1961 to present) the paper/cardboard/cardstock whatever you want to call it has been subject to humidity and heat, and then dried out, and pulled, bent, folded, and stuck back in.
What do you imagine all that stress on the printed page does to the finer details of lines and curves in the letters on the page?
One of the more intriguing Bible recovery operations is taking place at an ancient abandoned toilet in Egypt. For a variety of reasons folks took old paper from old books, used it, and tossed it into the toilet. Those old books were actually old Christian and Jewish scriptures.
I suppose being embedded in urea helped preserve the documents. First thing though is that almost all the writing was invisible so they had to 'bring it back" with electronic tricks and no doubt "magic" eh. And they did.
The lesson is TIME IS NO FRIEND OF THE PRINTED WORD.
They definitely see whatever they want to see or not see. The evasiveness over a simple point is worthy of a circus acrobat.
Somebody had a vertical rule on YT I don't know how to activate; all I have is my grid which and line tool; the grid I had to make very small for zoom work. I didn't notice it but am now aware, some of the letters don't line up vertically.
You lost me on the e font. Which e where?
Today's latest video, somebody was going to post that his mother's signature was forged. I guess it's scanned at different resolutions and have been wondering why she stuck in her real first name the way she did. Also I'm not really sure they were married at that point but that doesn't explain a subsequent divorce. I can well understand the stigma of being a possible unwed mother, not saying that's the case. Her signature looks consistent. I can usually spot obvious forgeries but some are too good.
Oh, the Nordyke twin I looked at Susan's, the time of birth, 2:12 P.M., the M drops way down. I can't remember what might cause that with a manual typewriter. I was curious why and when they were released to the public anyway. According to WND, they were published in the Honolulu Advertiser about July 2009, but I don't know why she released them. Also in an article on the Honolulu Advertiser site, it's claimed that the Nordyke twins went to school with Obama at Punahou and graduated with him. The mother was trying to figure out why she didn't know about Obama being born there and why the number for his was higher, says because she was in labor so long. She claims she met Obama's grandmother on a cruise to Tahiti in 2002 when they became seated at the same table. The grandmother said Obama's mother was deceased but that Obama was a social worker in Chicago.
. The evasiveness over a simple point is worthy of a circus acrobat.
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Like chasing a roach around a kitchen counter.
So, yeah, a nurse running around with a baby in one hand, doing hunt and peck with the other.
Mai Tai in hand? Naw. She done run out of hands.
Finally all those years of watching Mad Men are paying off!
The IBM Selectric was introduced on July 31, 1961 (Mad Men fudged the date on this because the noise of so many manual typewriters in 1960 would have been so loud that the dialogue would have been hard to hear), so it's very unlikely that the Selectric would have been in widespread use a few days later.
The odds are very strong that if the document is real it was typed on a manual typewriter and the irregularities reflect the degree of force with which the typist hit a key, how long they held it, and how much ink was in the ribbon and then on the type that hit the paper. Smudges and distortions were par for the course.
As for "kerning" the question is not whether you can find different-sized spaces between different letters. It's more whether you can find different-sized spaces between the same letters. What I mean is a letter like "l" was put on a particular part of the type (closer to the right, say), so in relation to other letter the "l" would always look to be unevenly spaced. But this would be consistent. It would be a function of how a manual typewriter worked, not some computer age development.
I dunno about all these "experts" -- people who claim expertise with modern technology but don't know about fountain pens or manual typewriters and other earlier technologies.
Don’t tell me you worked some place where “they” didn’t do that?
Nurses in 1960 did not use typewriters. I am willing to bet my entire 401 K that any notes or notations in bound logs by any clinical nurses are in **cursive** penmanship. ( Likely Palmer method!)
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