Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud

World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

[conservativegramma]

Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines

The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

[Brown Deer]

Some folks only get involved where there's controversy.

We certainly know who some of those folks are!

btw, What happened to the conservative FRiend who started this thread? ;-)

[little jeremiah]

I guess a delicate flower got his or her sensibilities bruised.

Grrrr

[potlatch]

I agree, native born citizens and Natural Born Citizens are different in respect to becoming President. That, obviously, is the only time it is of prime importance and the Fathers of our country based it on pure allegiance to our country.

But - it seems hard for people to understand

[TigersEye]

P.S. Last time I checked the constitution, aiding and abetting is classified as treason. Treason is a hanging offense.

What I’m calling for is an investigation, and indictments, then trial. I’m calling for Congress to do its job.

I don't know what you said in your posts that were pulled but if you made it clear, as you did in the words above, that you were only calling for the rule of law to be upheld then you shouldn't have been banned for that. I said the same thing about Slick Willy Clinton in 2000 and those posts still stand somewhere in the archives.

[Jim Robinson]

We don’t call for hanging Obama on FR! Some of you idiots are going way overboard with your stupidity!

[Aliska]

I compared them insofar as I was able. I've not come out and pronounced it an outright fraud or forgery, "beyond my pay grade", seriously. The farthest I will go is that a lot of it is suspicious at this point. Really the first thing that set me off was that it looked so odd, then right on its heels appeared the AP version. Now some of it turns out to have logical explanations like the hash paper is required by HI law now.

Why don't I comment on other threads? I started to on 3 different topics but scrubbed them but not because I don't care. Often I'm afraid to say what I really think.

[justiceseeker93]

But - it seems hard for people to understand.

That's because they've been brainwashed by MSM propaganda exulting immigrants and they think that immigrants can do anything that "anyone else" can.

Plus, it's a sad fact that teaching and learning the basics of the Constitution is probably only required in very small percentage of today's dumbed down public school systems.

[cynwoody]

IBM offered proportional spacing on their Executive model, starting in 1944 (it was developed in 1941, but IBM's activities supporting the war effort delayed its introduction). This illustration is from an ad in the fifties:

It was not until a few days before the advent of the Won that IBM introduced the Selectric (changeable bouncing golfball type element).

In 1968, I recall using a machine (can't recall if it was IBM or Wang or somebody else) that did kerning. It had a small memory that would buffer characters as you typed. When it had enough characters to form a line, it would type the line using a a Mylar ribbon all nicely kerned and justified. The college newspaper used it to crank out camera ready copy for offset printing.

[potlatch]

I guess so justice. I’m not a Constitutional scholar but I can understand the difference.

You’re right though, the MSM knows how to garble things so people are kept confused and dumbed down.

[muawiyah]

There is a distinct possibility that we are dealing with TWO MANUAL TYPEWRITERS. Only the very best typists can provide perfectly matched strikes in that case. Then it would be surprising to find any duplicates at the level of magnification used in that display.

Here's a timeline for you ~ Hawaii first became a state in 1959. Obama was born in 1961.

In between those two dates the Board of Health and the hospital came into possession of certain properties ~ left behind by the Territorial government.

I have no idea what the quality was.

[TigersEye]

There is a distinct possibility that we are dealing with TWO MANUAL TYPEWRITERS. Only the very best typists can provide perfectly matched strikes in that case.

It would take a really sloppy typist to cause a different typeface to appear in one word from one typewriter wouldn't it? Or are we back to the idea that they switched typewriters in the middle of a word?

[Admin Moderator]

I guess a delicate flower got his or her sensibilities bruised.

No, the delicate flower mods don't like death threads against the president and if you have a problem with that please contact Jim Robinson immediately and explain why it is ok with you.

[Aliska]

Yes. But the Nordyke twins' must have been issued a long time ago. They were obviously copied from microfilm or they used to photocopy so they look like negatives. The hospital name is the same so that argument doesn't wash that it wasn't called that then. I don't understand why a different registrar signature unless one was absent that day or another possessed the same authority.

You know what? They're pretty low res so hard to analyze the same, but I pulled one up. Without firing up Photoshop, the text near the gutter doesn't appear to curve on the twin I hastily looked at just now either. The curve on the left of the document itself isn't as pronounced, but it's there nonetheless.

[CanaGuy]

I would like to hear your argument for why a forger would assemble words from different fonts. What is it that makes sense to you about them doing this? What would be the point of deliberate multiple fonts in one word, especially fonts that are only marginally different? What would be the objective with respect to creating an acceptable forged document? This is pretty far-fetched, IMHO. It makes absolutely no sense.

This is a classic example of the lab scientist pulling the legs off a frog, and then clapping his hands to make the legless animal jump. When it didn't respond, he concluded that when you pull the legs off a frog, it goes deaf.

I think there are other logical reasons for the slight font variations: multiple photocopies of a micro-fiche document, for example, will do strange things to characters.

There are already enough things wrong with it.

[little jeremiah]

I didn’t see what she said. If she said that people should be investigated for treason and punished if guilty, then I can’t disagree. If she went wild and called for anyone to be hanged right now, that’s another thing.

[Brown Deer]

I never mentioned the hospital name. This thread is about the various fonts being used on the fake BC. There are not multiple fonts on the Nordyke BCs.

Another thing that I observed a long time ago is the mis-alignment of Box 2 in relationship to the boxes below. You will also notice that the “e” font is not the same as others.

[muawiyah]

Take a look at the "aaaaaa" selection. He is saying that he found all those different degrees of impression from one typewriter in a single line.

Let me suggest something to you that will go down easier if you just relax ~ the guy with 50 years experience in typography has 50 years experience in POWERED COMPOSITION.

The lineotype was invented in 1884 ~ and that was the beginning of the end for irregular handset type. From that time on hot lead was the game ~ and made modern daily newspapers possible.

Manual typewriters have always suffered from the fact that there's no precision control on the hammers. You get what you hit. You press it real hard and sharp you can cut the paper. You press it too light and shallow and you might not leave a smudge.

Electric typewriters have been in general use since the mid 1930s. They provide smooth, even typing where every keystroke is identical to every other keystroke.

We have an earlier thread where that topic is discussed over hundreds of posts.

I grew up with a manual typewriter and used it in college to put out our dormitory newsletter.

[Admin Moderator]

It fell well within the “that’s another thing” definition. Beyond tolerance.

[Brown Deer]

Here's another good example of the incosistency of the commas:

[Jim Robinson]

Yeah, and she called for the FBI and the SS and the congress all to be hanged as well. And she didn’t stop there. Our little Stalinist gramma called for all on FR who didn’t agree with her to be hanged too. No thanks. She got the zot for her trouble.