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To: Rashputin

Thanks for that information. Fascinating.

It is possible for a state to pass a law which would require the “natural born citizen” issue to be ruled on by the courts. That is currently in the works in several state legislatures. So I do feel pretty confident that we will eventually get a ruling on that. Whether or not it will be based on the original intent of the Founders probably depends on the swing vote at SCOTUS. Which is scary.

The ability to forge documents is a growing concern, and given the tampering we already know about with Obama’s records (draft registration, passport, etc), it is something we need to take seriously with Obama. I agree with you that the procedures currently in place do nothing to require forensic analysis and without a requirement nobody in government is going to touch this issue.

That’s why I believe we need to get at least one state to pass a law that requires certified, non-manipulable transaction logs to be disclosed along with the birth and citizenship records.

The devil really is in the details, and I believe it was the prospect of such a law being introduced and passed that made Abercrombie balk in what I believe was a move to prepare the public to be shown a forged long-form BC for Obama - with the unveiling timed to embarrass “birthers” and convince state legislators that the eligibility issue is a crock that they don’t want to be associated with. Thus derailing the whole move for state eligibility laws.

I honestly believe that the only thing standing between the good people of America and a total, triumphant whitewash and blowing away of this issue is whether or not we can get ONE STATE to require transaction logs for birth and citizenship records submitted as proof of presidential eligibility.

And besides just requiring the candidate to swear that they’ve never been a citizen of another country we actually need to require the citizenship documentation. We need to require the candidate to give the SOS permission to do the investigation him/herself to see what records are held by the Department of State and INS, and to receive the transaction logs for those documents.

We already know that Obama’s passport file has been illegally accessed 3 times. Before any state SOS declares Obama to be Constitutionally eligible they need to know what was done those 3 times.

The inspector general for HHS reported on how easy it is to obtain genuine documents such as a birth certificate based on fraudulent documents such as a social security card, via passports, etc. We know there is something fishy with Obama’s SSN, passport file, and draft registration - and we know the HDOH has indirectly confirmed they have no legally-valid BC for Obama. To find out the real story, the IG of HHS recommends that states decide for themselves what documentation to require in order to not be snookered by fraud.

That is EXACTLY what needs to happen in these eligibility bills. We can’t do forensic analysis of everybody in the country, but the person who holds the nuclear football should at least get that level of scrutiny.

The bill I’m asking people to e-mail their state legislators and ask for is posted at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/final-short-form-eligibility-bill1.pdf


224 posted on 01/27/2011 8:32:59 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
I can't find the danged link, but earlier in the month someone posted information showing that even if Barry has a valid BC, he's still not eligible. If I can find that I'll post it again since it had a good diagram showing the requirements in a succinct form. If nothing else, he wasn't born to two U.S. citizen parents even if he can produce a BC. Add to that his failure to maintain his natal citizenship and it's a legal slam dunk if it is fairly heard (I know, a big “if” given the makeup of the SC).

So, it's all a matter of people having the will to do this guy in on legal Constitutional grounds rather than whistling past the graveyard. Some folks are already getting depressed over the idea that he'll get a second term, yet they're not ready to go after this guy to the degree required to keep him off the ballot in 2012. That's the sort of giving up that the majority have done with great regularity and it's why we're at the end of fifty years of creeping fascism.

231 posted on 01/27/2011 9:20:25 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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