Posted on 01/26/2011 5:57:29 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
That's just it: one of them wasn't. No one was claiming Obama was ineligible because of his father's citizenship until after the election. Period.
Yes, people were making other, equally silly, arguments, such as the Kenyan birth story or the loss of citizenship through adoption story. But the specific argument related to not having a citizen father was made up out of whole cloth some time in November of 2008.
That's just a fact, whether you choose to deal with it or not.
tiger-one was questioning whether Obama was a Natural Born Citizen way back in 2007.
And the question in 2011 is still unanswered.
Okay. How about a civics or history textbook published between the end of the civil war and 1890?
Fine. Show me an example of any textbook in any field that deals with constitutional issues, civics, history, social studies, or law, that defines natural born citizenship as you claim it is defined.
I was, as were several others on FR alone. I've corrected you guys before on this false claim.
Lawrence Solum of The Michigan Law Review all but made the same admission well prior to the election as well, albeit inadvertantly. He was so caught up in demonstrating the ineligibility of McCain that he stepped in it with Obama, too.
Fine. Show me an example of any textbook in any field that deals with constitutional issues, civics, history, social studies, or law, that defines natural born citizenship as you claim it is defined.
show me one that defines it the way you claim or any definition.
Not at all. The poster very clearly indicates his father's citizenship wouldn't matter if he were born in the USA. Period. There is no other possible reading.
Okay, where? Please provide a link.
Lawrence Solum of The Michigan Law Review all but made the same admission well prior to the election as well,
No he did not. Amazing how birthers just love to make things up out of thin air.
Yes, I'm aware the Indonesian adoption argument has been around since before the election. I never claimed otherwise.
But that's not what we were discussing. We were discussing the argument that Obama is ineligible because his daddy wasn't a US citizen.
That's the argument that no one made before the election.
And that's just a fact. Deal with it.
Obviously is--he took a pay cut of around a hundred and fifty grand. Doubt that he would have done that without some side compensation scheme.
Why should I bother curiosity? Whats the point?
My Dog Freddie died in 1975, and that has about as much relevance as your pointless nit picking.
You are an irrelevant distraction, and a waste of time. You clearly have no relevant point to make.
Bubai.
Yes. If no one interpreted "natural born citizen" to mean requiring two citizen parents before 2008, that was never the accepted interpretation of the phrase. In a system of law based on precedent, prior interpretation matters.
Carry that into court and I'll watch you get thrown out on your rear.
LOL. That sounds really funny coming from a birther. I surely hope the irony isn't lost on you.
The dude is a waste of time. Zot fodder.
I sent you the definition of Native from 1771 from Britannica which you conveniently overlooked, obot troll.
See #323
As to your other quotes, they're very interesting, but not a single one states that two citizen parents are required for natural born citizenship if the child is born in the USA.
But his Father was a citizen of Kenya at the time, would that make Obama also a citizen of Kenya with dual citizenship? I read somewhere that he has dual citizenship. Did he ever renounce his Kenyan citizenship
44 posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:56:20 PM by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)"?
From FocusNEXUS' post on this thread on June 28, 2008
I'm sure there are thousands of other examples even earlier. Obama anal remora.
That's relevant how?
Besides Obama, what other person has run for president with only one citizen parent and one-non citizen?
You found an example of someone who thought Obama had dual citizenship. You have not found an example of someone claiming he's not a natural born citizen because of his father's citizenship.
Try again.
Loren, you posted a list somewhere. Mind giving us that link again?
Thanks.
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