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To: curiosity; FocusNexus
No one was claiming Obama was ineligible because of his father's citizenship until after the election. Period."


But his Father was a citizen of Kenya at the time, would that make Obama also a citizen of Kenya with dual citizenship? I read somewhere that he has dual citizenship. Did he ever renounce his Kenyan citizenship

44 posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:56:20 PM by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)"?



From FocusNEXUS' post on this thread on June 28, 2008


I'm sure there are thousands of other examples even earlier. Obama anal remora.

416 posted on 01/27/2011 4:24:25 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: Electric Graffiti
Close, but no cigar.

You found an example of someone who thought Obama had dual citizenship. You have not found an example of someone claiming he's not a natural born citizen because of his father's citizenship.

Try again.

419 posted on 01/27/2011 4:26:39 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Electric Graffiti

We are trying to talk sense to two whose reading comprehension skills are dim. I know that I was posting that Obama might be ineligible because his Dad was not a citizen in that time frame — summer 2008. I realized that the term “natural born citizen” in the Presidential qualifications was a “term of art” that had a special meaning to the Founders and was fishing around for what it meant. “Born in country” was one possibility, via Blackstone, but that left the case of diplomats, soldiers and others of official and quasi-official status not well settled — clearly the founders, Jay and Washington, did not mean them. Washington, especially, was well familiar with European noblemen arriving here to seek a fortune, but not as men committed to America — he had seen them in the war on both sides.

I was happy when “Judah Benjamin” posting at TexasDarling blog made the case for the founders wanting to avoid conflicts of loyalty, and happier still — by the clearness of his reasoning — when de Vattel’s work and its influence on the founders was made known to the internet community following this issue.

De Vattel’s term, as it was translated into a Constitutional term of art, “natural born citizen” means that the DAD had to be citizen. In our time where men and women are viewed as equals in marriage then the term would mean BOTH parents have to be citizens. Vattel made it clear — Obama is NOT a “natural born citizen”.

Yet I knew by early summer 2008 that Obama had already determined his line of reasoning for why he was “natural born citizen” — he could purport Hawaiian birth and thus meet what his own website at that time was declaring to make him a “natural born citizen”, that being the 14th Amendment.

It seemed to me that he and his team had already anticipated the argument that he was not “natural born citizen” and were using the weirdly presented COLB to pin down the argument to “birth in the US”. He’s black, and most of the elite class are terrified to challenge a black man claiming protection of the 14th. To me that was YET ANOTHER mark of a con. Obama is a con man supreme.

The 14th Amendment had nothing to say about the meaning of “natural born citizen” in the requirements for President. Although the case of a person born to black slave parents before the 14th was passed could have been interesting, that’s moot today as such persons are all dead.


448 posted on 01/27/2011 5:49:42 PM PST by bvw
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