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To: MestaMachine
Please explain why anyone would go to that much trouble to forge a document that Hawaii provides on self-swearing alone...using the information provided by the applicant.

Please explain why I should respond to your illiberate crap?

Illiberate. n. An illiterate liberal.

Why was this forgery made? Did you just crawl out from under a rock?

Because it fooled 50 million people into believing it was conclusive proof that he was born in Hawaii.

Because Hawaii already has a birth record for Obama along with amendments that mustbe included on the COLB.

Because they can do, pretty much, whatever they please as long as people like you condone it.

Because you are a troll who is incapable of rational thought or carrying on a civil discussion.

This has absolutely nothing to do with who obama is or why he refuses to produce an actual long form BC.

And what you said has nothing to do with rational thinking.

Furthermore, everyone in the entire state of Hawaii is not corrupt. If there was an actual forgery, someone would be all over it like a fly on sh!t.

Typical liberal illogic and ignorance. This COLB forgery has effectively precluded the release of an actual original birth certificate for the past two years. Who, exactly, is that "someone?" on an island where over 70% of the residents support Obama? This is the same old liberal garbage we've been hearing for over two years. It goes like this:

If this was a forgery, then don't you think ______?

Fill in the blank with the non sequitur of your choice.

If this was a forgery, then don't you think Hillary would have done something?

If this was a forgery, then don't you think McCai9n would have used it?

If this was a forgery, then don't you think I'm an idiot for asking a bogus rhetorical question?

I never said that the "entire State of Hawaii is corrupt." I doubt if anyone said that. I singled out one person who has total control over the the Hawaii Health Department, and whose statements (all two of them) apparently trump the Constitution in the minds of the brain-dead liberals. Because of this one person, we have a fraud in the White House.

Now, don't you think that Fukino would be fish food if she said that Obama was not born in Hawaii? did not dawn on you, did it?

It doesn’t need to be a forgery to be a fraud.

It doesn't need to be edible for someone like you to swallow it. You can call it anything you like - except real.

This is a red herring. You are NOT court vetted, as you claim.

Yes, I am an expert witness.

and I wonder what your personal interest is in promoting this version, different from your old version.

It is called "research," and it evolves over time - quite unlike your species. ...and really, REALLY different...slimed a good freeper ...UNFORGED scan...actual COLB ...on FR... a forgery, a fake, a fraud, when it wasn’t.

Next time, could you please translate that in English? ,p> Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, ever post a copy of the COLB she sent me? NO!

Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, ever post any copy of her COLB on FR? NO!

Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, insist it was a 2000 COLB that was date-stamped March 2007? YES!

Is it possible for a 2007 COLB to look like a 2000 COLB? - only if it was a forgery.

Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, believe me when I said it was a 2007 COLB, and not a 2000? NO! In fact, she would have none of it. Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, play me and everyone else on FR? You're darn right she did.

Make no mistake - this alleged UNFORGED COLB was nothing of the sort: it was intentionally manipulated to look the way it did. And, since the only way for this 2007 COLB to look like a 2000 COLB is via forgery - especially when the owner of said COLB repeatedly insisted it was a 2000 COLB, and DID NOT COME CLEAN until I brought it to everyone's attention - everyone except the ping list who I predicted would act this way.

Do I appreciate Danae calling me a fraud? No, not when it was her alleged "mistake" that started the deception in the first place.

You can make Einstein sound like an idiot on Relativity by going back far enough before he came up with E=mc2. This is a prime example of liberal dishonesty - going back in time until they find something in the past that they - not us - feel is a counterargument.

Bring up present-day Islamic terrorism, they will bring up the Crusades.

Mention anything about Obama, they will bring up Bush or Reagan.

What is my personal interest in promoting this version? Obama is promoting this version. His Administration is promoting this version. The mainstream media is promoting this version. All of the Obot trolls are promoting this version. I'm merely duplicating it.

69 posted on 08/02/2010 7:28:39 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: Polarik

Just wow. You were wrong. Period. I have never seen such a convoluted bunch of spew in my life.
You say you are an expert witness. In what court, on what case, at what time in your life?


74 posted on 08/02/2010 8:14:27 PM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Polarik

Typical liberal illogic and ignorance. This COLB forgery has effectively precluded the release of an actual original birth certificate for the past two years. Who, exactly, is that “someone?” on an island where over 70% of the residents support Obama? This is the same old liberal garbage we’ve been hearing for over two years.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

So by this “conservative” and “literatate” rationale, we are to deduce that if THIS COLB had never been shown, we would have gotten an “actual” one sometime in the past two years???


81 posted on 08/02/2010 9:16:21 PM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Polarik
" Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, ever post any copy of her COLB on FR? NO!

Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, insist it was a 2000 COLB that was date-stamped March 2007? YES!

Is it possible for a 2007 COLB to look like a 2000 COLB? - only if it was a forgery.


Oh yes I did Polarik. Whats MORE... when I found I was WRONG on that issue, I posted that to YOU as well as several others, and posted the PROOF of my mistake! I also posted the receipts from the HDOH regarding the TWO colb's ordered for me in the past, know when the FIRST one was? Yea, 2000.

Did you EVER apologize for what you did behind my back?

NO.

Did you EVER respond to the several emails I sent you?

No.

Did you EVER take back one of the seriously slanderous things you said about me?

NO.

This means YOU are the one in debt to me here RON. Not to mention a number of other people you flat out are lying to right here right now.

Its starting to make ME feel like a target. The only thing is, YOU HAVE MISSED.
135 posted on 08/03/2010 9:46:54 PM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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