This is from the coven's group vacation with their wives down in Florida:
Posted on 05/04/2010 7:20:28 PM PDT by Man50D
A widely regarded Southern symbol of pride and states' rights is standing in the way of would-be Marines in their quest to serve their country – a Confederate battle flag.
Straight out of high school, one 18-year-old Tennessee man was determined to serve his country as a Marine. His friend said he passed the pre-enlistment tests and physical exams and looked forward with excitement to the day he would ship out to boot camp.
But there would be no shouting drill instructors, no rigorous physical training and no action-packed stories for the aspiring Marine to share with his family.
Shortly before he was scheduled to leave Nashville for boot camp, the Marine Corps rejected him.
Now, the young man, who wishes to remain unnamed and declined to be interviewed, has chosen to return to school and is no longer an aspiring Marine.
"I think he just wants to let it go," said former Marine 1st Lt. Gene Andrews, a friend of the man and patriotic Southerner who served in Vietnam from 1968 through 1971. Andrews is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, a group of male descendents of Confederate soldiers. He counseled the young man when he decided to become a Marine.
"He had been talking to me, and he was all fired up about joining," he told WND. "He asked my opinion of it, and I just tried to tell him the truth, good points and bad points."
When the young recruit didn't go to boot camp, Andrews learned of his rejection based on his tattoo of the Confederate battle flag on his shoulder.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
This is from the coven's group vacation with their wives down in Florida:
Here’s about 1%. How many different people on FR have you called names or been rude to over the past years? Do you even have any idea? You have years of bashing many Republicans. You came to FR and began to defend Muslims(yes, those posts are still available and you know it, they were posted). I’ll get them organized, put them on Scrib and post the link. That way when you call people names I will just post the link to the Scib doc showing them that they are far from being alone in being called a name by you.
You have years of name calling on FR. You were fighting and calling people names long before I even knew FR existed. It’s what you do. You come here to fight. You called me names, that started the flame war.
Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:31:19 PM • 146 of 338
Non-Sequitur to Gordon Greene
And when I’m done, I’m going to write my own novel-length version of “Arguing with Idiots” and dedicate it with heart-felt gratitude to the Evos on freerepublic
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:35:18 AM • 13 of 46
Non-Sequitur to Syncro
If relevance in your eyes is Joe the Plumber then I’d just as soon not play.
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:29:37 AM • 9 of 46
Non-Sequitur to Syncro
Syncro:I see your check from the DNC/KOS cleared
NS:Joe? Is that you?
Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:00:09 PM • 16 of 112
Non-Sequitur to Dr. Scarpetta
Jon Stewart does an absolutely riotous imitation of Glenn Beck. He was at it last night
Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:07:41 PM • 957 of 1,252
Non-Sequitur to Cincincinati Spiritus
Many of the ills of this country can be laid at the feet of the three Texas presidents we’ve had. And you think that having trashed the country you can just walk out.
Monday, March 08, 2010 1:36:31 PM • 23 of 52
Non-Sequitur to Marty62
Marty:Looks like she may have Rove experience behind her!
NS:God help her then.
Non-Sequitur to seemoAR
There is a very old saying in the South about people who are as dumb as a fence post or a rock. It does as much good to argue with a post as it is does with some people. The results are the same.
And I imagine that the Southern population is equally divided between the two types.
Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:28:17 PM • 263 of 275
Non-Sequitur to Beckwith
Now stick your head back up where it usually resides and keep on looking.
Non-Sequitur to RowdyFFC
Rowdy:Name calling suits you...must be a democrap...
NS:False statements suit you...must be a democrap...
NS:I see people jumping on the Palin bandwagon for the same reason that they jumped on the Obama bandwagon - a pretty face who talks a good game
More: All can be found here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:nonsequitur/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change
The major difference between the South and yogurt is that yogurt has a living culture.
Southern inbred is more likely.
Spongebob: Hey Patrick, guess what I am!
Patrick: Um, stupid?
Spongebob: No, I’m Texas!
Patrick: What’s the difference?
Doesn’t matter. Any group with Huckaboob as a leader is not a group I want to join up with
If we kiss your ass, or kick it yet again, I’m afraid we’ll cause brain damage
Obviously not a son of the South since my parents were married - to each other - and they weren’t first cousins.
Once again Jon Stewart puts the whole Confederate History Month controversy into perspective and introduces Union Victory Appreciation Month
As former Navy don’t get me started on the Army or the intelligence of its officers.
If she did not speak with prejudice then how would we know it’s Coulter?
The first thing you’ve said to date that we can agree on, you blithering jackass
You too, butthead.
Sahah Palin as Winston Churchill? The ultimate ROTFLMAO moment.
Other poster:I guarantee this: YOU WOULD NEVER SEE A SOUTHERNER BOW TO A SAUDI.
NS:Nah. Y’all are into holding hands.
*Note then he posts pic of Bush with Saudi King
( NS IMPLYING ALL SOUTHERNERS ARE RACIST)
NS- Ah, the last gasp of the Sothron psychotic: it nothing else works accuse your opponent of being a liberal. Nice to see that you’re being true to form. No doubt the fact that you can connect a black man to your pejorative is only icing on the cake for you.
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And this one just because it’s so damn funny:
“If I’d ever had a son I would have named him Caractacus. Either that or Bob. And I was going to name my daughter Boudicca but my wife insisted on naming her after her grandmothers”
Have you noticed how pokie is slowly becoming the spitting image of swattie?!
Since the article states that the tatttoo in question was the 'confederate battle flag', half the flags you posted are disqualified. However you raise an interesting question regarding the acceptability (on all sides) of the confederate national flag as a substitute expression of southern 'pride'. The recruit in question would certainly have a better argument if his right bicep was covered with the 'stars and bars' and not the CBF, which has racial and extremist connotations.
Northern historians have traditionally laid the blame for the War of 1861 at the feet of the Confederates at Charleston, South Carolina for their allegedly unprovoked attack upon the helpless United States garrison besieged in Fort Sumter. The Official Records , published by the U.S. War Department in the 1880s, tell a completely different story one in which the South was deliberately and treacherously maneuvered by the Lincoln Administration into firing the first shot.
http://digital.library.cornell.edu/m/moawar/ofre.html
“You and I both anticipated that the cause of the country would be advanced by making the attempt to provision Ft Sumter, even if it should fail; and it is no small consolation now to feel that our anticipation is justified by the result. “
Lincoln, Letter To Gustavus Fox on 1 May, 1861
“He (Lincoln) himself conceived the idea, and proposed sending supplies, without an attempt to reinforce giving notice of the fact to Gov Pickins of S.C. The plan succeeded. They attacked Sumter it fell, and thus, did more service than it otherwise could.”
Senator Orville Hickman Browning’s diary dated July 3, 1861
(Lincoln’s personal and political friend)
“Dear Mr. President:
“At the Republican Convention I heard you mention that you have the pictures
of four (4) great Americans in your office, and that included in these is a
picture of Robert E. Lee.
“I do not understand how any American can include Robert E. Lee as a person
to be emulated, and why the President of the United States of America should
do so is certainly beyond me.
“The most outstanding thing that Robert E. Lee did, was to devote his best
efforts to the destruction of the United States Government, and I am sure that
you do not say that a person who tries to destroy our Government is worthy of
being hailed as one of our heroes.
“Will you please tell me just why you hold him in such high esteem?
Sincerely yours,
Leon W. Scott”
Eisenhower’s response, written from the White House on August 9, 1960, reads
as follows:
“Dear Dr. Scott:
“Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed
admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to
understand that at the time of the War Between the States the issue of Secession
had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character,
public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed
over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was
adopted.
“General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted
men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional
validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America;
he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with
captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle,
and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many
trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his belief in God.
Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I
read the pages of our history.
“From deep conviction I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s calibre
would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that
present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his
devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the
nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of
danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom
sustained.
“Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great
American on my office wall.
“Sincerely,
Dwight D. Eisenhower”
http://slrc-csa.org/site/misc/IKELee.pdf
I’m The South
I’m the Little Rock of Arkansas
The Smokey Mountains and a cross-cut saw
Louisiana cooking and a watermelon vine
I’m a tall Georgia Pine
And Georgia’s on my mind
I’m the Tennessee Waltz and all night sings
The Florida sun and Silver Springs
I’m Huck and Tom and the old folks at home
I’m Clingman’s Dome
Why, I’m the stars that fell on Alabam
I’m coffee in the morning
And an old smoked ham
I’m a Carolina moon, a dusty delta dawn
Magnolias in Bloom
I’m a thoroughbred grazing on Kentucky bluegrass
I’m coon hounds, bird dogs and tea of sassafras
I’m the Mississippi River as it rounds the bend
I’m Gone With The Wind
Y’all come back again
I thank the Lord both night and morn
that He saw fit to have me born in Dixie
Look Away... look away...
Look away Dixie Land
I’m hanging moss on a live oak tree
Southern fried chicken and a cypress knee
Why, I’m the birth of the blues in New Orleans
The land of dreams
And I’m a trout a’ jumpin’ in a cool clear stream
I’m an antebellum home on the Natchez Trace
A rusty plow on the old home place
Azaleas a’ blooming in beautifu Mobile
I’m the Virgina Reel
Derby Day in Louisville
That Southern hospitality in Charleston
and in Raleigh
A Georgia peach, a cotton patch, Miami Beach
I’m Dan’el Boon and Robert E. Lee
The Seminole, Choctaw and the Cherokee
Well, I’m everything good
you’ve ever dreamed about
Hush your mouth
I Am The South
You’re joking, right? Seeing the same picture for years touches a nerve? Get real, get some new material, heck, I’ll even do it for you, be right back.
Why? hmmmmmm.... hmmmmmm. well, because you.......................
like to argue
I will defend my Confederate heritage and Southern culture, whenever they are under attack, as well as the ideals which my Confederate ancestors so valiantly defended. Although Southerners are gentlemen by nature, we will stand united, ready, and able to concentrate that defense of our Southern heritage anytime and anywhere.
Y A W N . . .
In order to coalesce the forces in the North, Lincoln had to stage an incident to inflame the populace, which he did. The firing on Sumter was by his own admission a setup for just such action. Lincoln was aware that provisioning Sumter could provoke a war.
Lincoln’s letter to Gustavus Fox on 1 May, 1861, makes it clear that he was pleased by the result of the firing on Ft Sumter...” You and I both anticipated that the cause of the country would be advanced by making the attempt to provision Ft Sumter, even if it should fail; and it is no small consolation now to feel that our anticipation is justified by the result. “
The contest is really for empire on the side of the North and for Independence on that South
(London Times. 7 November 1861)
The US formally declared war on Britain in response to trade restrictions.
Britain however had been aggitating for war by stirring up Indians in the Northwest to impede settlements of American citizens there and were impressing American citizens to service in the British Navy.
The U.S. felt all these were violations of international law and war was declared.
If the Confederate battle flag can be tagged as a tribute to slavery,
how is it that the American flag has gotten a pass so far?
Slavery existed far longer under Old Glory than under the Stars and Bars
The United States resolved the problem themselves. The rebels had to have the problem resolved for them...
You can’t help it. You were brought up Yankee. As a child of the North you were taught in our government schools to worship Abe Lincoln’s sacred words and great deeds. You were told Honest Abe was a saint among wicked politicians. A superhero who saved the Union. A moral paragon who emancipated the slaves. You were taught Washington and Jefferson were great men, but flawed. The Slavery Thing, you know.
But Lincoln, most historians agree, was our greatest American president. Now you a are political adult, but you still believe the childish fairy tales about St. Abe that our Southern brothers have seen through for 144 years.
Lincoln was a white supremacist, an enemy of free-market capitalism and a political opportunist in the pocket of the North’s big banks, railroads and industries.
Lincoln started a war that killed 620,000 souls, not to free slaves or save the Union, but to hold on to the tariff revenue of the seceding Southern states - which provided 95 percent of the federal budget. Contrary to the design of the Constitution, Lincoln wanted a strong central government, not a voluntary confederation of sovereign states. A state’s constitutional right to secede was twisted into an act of treason and an excuse for war. During wartime, the state’s power grows and even the most benign leaders are forced to take despotic measures.
But Lincoln was suspiciously good at playing American dictator.
He started a war without the consent of Congress; illegally declared martial law; illegally blockaded Southern ports; illegally suspended habeas corpus and arrested tens of thousands of political opponents; illegally orchestrated the secession of West Virginia; shut down hundreds of opposition newspapers and imprisoned their editors and owners .
He also “ignored the Ninth and Tenth amendments; orchestrated the rigging of Northern elections; introduced the slavery of conscription and income taxation; waged war on Southern civilians and ... created an enormous political patronage system that survives today.”
So Lincoln was no god. And the more you learn about what he did, not just wrote or said, the more you understand why liberal and conservative lovers of big government adore him and so many Southerners hate him. No one today - Yankee or Reb — who believes in personal freedom, limited government, the sanctity of the Constitution, free trade and the political values of the Founders should idolize. “The American Caesar”. DiLorenzo, author of the best-seller “The Real Lincoln,
Some people just don’t feel sad when that happens to a tyrant that has killed hundreds of thousands of their own people. You know, kind of like Saddam, nobody wept at his demise either.
YOU are full of it. Nobody here on FR on any post ever said that and you know it. JR would not stand for it. You’re a baiter and a trouble maker. Are you Mrs. Non-sequitur?
“The noblest American who ever lived and one of the greatest commanders known in the annals of war.”
Winston Churchill.
“A nation of men of Lee’s caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we in our own time of danger in a divided world will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.”
Dwight Eisenhower
The world has never seen better soldiers than those who followed Lee; and their leader will undoubtedly rank as without exception the very greatest of all the great captains that the English-speaking peoples have brought forth.”
Theodore Roosevelt.
“If any American father were asked which of our great men he would most want his own son to resemble, the father, if he were wise, would be compelled to answer, ‘Robert E. Lee.’”
Benjamin Andrews, President Brown University, 1880.
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