He said that there were no copies of old procedures that he knew of, so he could not show me anything from the 60s. He said that nobody there had been around long enough to remember for sure what they did in the 60s. He did say that until the registration system went on-line (first at the Department of Health and then connected to hospital “ADT” systems a few years later) there were actually different procedures used to get the records from different outer islands at the same time, and they were not finally standard until some time after he arrived.
I asked him where the numbers were assigned, and he said it depended. For a number of years, hospitals with busy oby/gn practices got preassigned blocks of numbers from the state so that they wouldn’t duplicate each other. For a while before he got there the state actually issued hospitals the stamps that had those blocks of numbers in them, but that became too expensive, so they went back to just assigning the blocks.
Once the paperwork got to Honolulu, the numbers were entered into the state ledgers and the certificates filed. When I asked him if there was a local number too, he said no. The state number was the local number, so you could right to the hospital and find the same record under the same number.
The correspondence, excerpted from the Hawaiian DoH.
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. HISTORICALLY, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i),and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
HISTORICALLY, most often the “date accepted” and the “date filed” is the same date as the majority of births occur on O’ahu (the island with the largest population in our state). In the past, when births were recorded on paper they may have been accepted at a health office on an island other than O’ahu, such as Kaua’i. The paper record would then need to be sent to O’ahu to have a file number placed on it, and the filed date would then be sometime later (as you know, the state of Hawai’i is comprised of multiple islands with miles of water in between). The electronic age has changed this process significantly, and it was determined some time ago that one date would suffice.
Janice Okubo
Hawaii State Department of Health
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The Hawaiian DoH didn't assign numbers to hospitals or give out pre-stamp birth certificates with the control numbers on them at anytime as they where added at the MAIN office after the paper work was completed. And BuckT, no nurse at the hospitals acted as a local registrar stamping dates in the date filed box since that was when the birth certificates were RECEIVED at the DoH.
You've been caught in a lie Ed WiggOut.
I wonder if Piggy Wiggy will get a new screen name now that he has been slamdunk debunked.
And the cherry on the cake is the office was closed February 5.
Now that’s funny!
Janice Okubo has issued so many incorrect statements with regard to Obama’s vital records that her understanding of DoH procedures and laws is minimal at best. To say that she has any personal knowledge of how the grunts on the ground handle and process vital records is laughable. And even if she did have some knowledge of the processes, could we trust her? No.
Your citation of Okubo’s statements as FACT makes you look utterly ridiculous. Birthers parsed Okubo’s words to fit the birther narrative that Okubo never said Obama was born in Hawaii, until she did come out and say that and more. NOW you believe her? NOW she’s an authority?
OMG, you have no credibility, Red. I can’t believe you weren’t too embarrassed to post that little tirade.
LOL LOL!!!!!
EnderWiggins contacted me privately to insult me and call me a liar. I have looked into his West Point claims. I have in fact contacted West Point directly. His claims have been contradictory and constantly evolving. Initially he claimed to have graduated from West Point on June 6, 1978 and been born on December 29, 1956. After learning of my attempt to verify his information he now claims to have been born on December 19, 1956.
The lesson here is that you can spend a lot of time and effort trying to verify EnderWiggins claims; when you do he will just change the claim. Isn’t this typical of those trying to defend the indefensible. With EnderWiggins it is all troll tactics with no actual substance.