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To: STARWISE

Poppycock. Incorrect information should be corrected not left to stand unchallenged. Jimrob knows my position on this subject because I’ve discussed it with him. He allows the debate. When something has been debunked and shown to be false, it’s not a matter of my personal interpretation. For example, that ridiculous claim that American travel to Pakistan in 1981 was banned has been debunked. Yet some birthers continue to perpetuate that stupid rumor as fact. Claims like that NEED to be challenged so we don’t look like idiots. And that’s just one example.


1,837 posted on 02/27/2010 4:52:58 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Incorrect information should absolutely be corrected.

I have a standing invitation for anybody to correct any incorrect information I’ve given. Ender Wiggins tried but unfortunately for him, the official written government sources I have as well as the observable birth certificates speak for themselves in support of my claim, which was from the horse’s own mouth.

Other than that, I don’t remember anybody challenging the facts of my claim - just Parsy saying I should rearrange them to suit the format he wants and others saying this is a stupid subject and just talking about this makes all conservatives appear stupid, or that I’m wasting my time.

It’s well and good to discuss those things, but if what I’m saying is true - and nobody has been able to come up with evidence to refute mine - then we’re talking about Obama using an internet forgery because the genuine COLB would show up the fact that he has no prima facie-quality documentation in Hawaii. We’ve got Factcheck participating in the forgery and the entire government of Hawaii participating in covering up the forgery. In the meantime we’ve got the media ridiculing the issue after Obama’s lawyers threatened them with annihilation if they reported seriously on the issue.

Would you say those are serious issues?


1,849 posted on 02/27/2010 5:18:07 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“...so we don’t look like idiots.”

~~~~

Last I looked, there was no memo in
my inbox declaring you the arbiter of
idiocy here.

Regarding Pakistan ...

While the subject of an outright travel ban
there in 1981 is the subject of debate
minutiae, it was hardly the carefree garden
spot in the world that a foreigner would
leisurely visit casually in that time.

Great civil unrest and martial law were the
realities.

He was apparently ‘well connected’ to yet another
fellow traveler from a wealthy and prestigious
family there, whom no doubt would have been
well protected, but hardly your typical jaunt
abroad in that timeframe.

~ ~ ~

March 1977 General elections; massive victory by Bhutto’s party evokes widespread rioting and protest

July 5, 1977 Martial law proclaimed

September 1978 Mohammad Zia ul Haq becomes President

April 4, 1979 Bhutto hanged

March 4, 1981 Provisional Constitutional Order, which in effect suspended 1973 Constitution

August 12, 1983 President Zia announces that martial law will be lifted in 1985, (Martial Law under General Zia-ul-Haq 1977-1985)

HISTORY OF PAKISTAN
http://www.cybercity-online.net/history.html

*snip*

In July 1977 Bhutto was deposed by Gen. Zia ul Haq and martial law was again imposed. On Apr. 4, 1979 Bhutto was executed after being convicted of complicity in the murder of a political opponent. In 1981 a presidential advisory federal council known as the Majlis i Shura was established. In Dec. 1985 Martial Law was lifted ...

http://www.atlapedia.com/online/countries/pakistan.htm

Would you have actually pondered taking a
vacation there in that chaos and unrest then
without those special and unusual foreign
connections in high places?

Interesting .. that his life, the parts of which
we’ve been allowed to know, seems to be
literally filled with these characters.


1,857 posted on 02/27/2010 5:32:05 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; STARWISE
Poppycock. Incorrect information should be corrected not left to stand unchallenged. Jimrob knows my position on this subject because I’ve discussed it with him. He allows the debate.

Like yours is all time. And not always just by us regular posters:

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To: pissant

Don’t you grow weary of the Orly Taitz freak show?

Don’t you grow weary of being strung along by the ridiculous promises? (”I can have Obama out of office in 30 days!” Her time was up on Oct. 12th, BTW)

Don’t you grow weary of reading one interpretation of events and finding out later that it didn’t really happen that way?

Don’t you grow weary of having your hopes raised only to have them dashed?

Don’t you grow weary of the incompetence and unprofessionalism?

Don’t you grow weary of group think?

15 posted on 10/20/2009 3:39:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: BuckeyeTexan

No.

57 posted on 10/20/2009 5:06:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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1,877 posted on 02/27/2010 6:39:25 PM PST by Red Steel
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