Are you saying I haven’t done my homework? Are you saying I haven’t laid it out in a rational fashion that is understandable to people?
If you have (or anybody has) suggestions for how to make it more understandable I’m thrilled to improve what I’ve got.
But what’s holding us down right now is that we have no legal means to go anywhere with this. The judges have denied it’s any of our business. And law enforcement refuses to investigate.
All we can do at this point is educate the people so there will be an outcry. Perhaps when we have enough people asking for an investigation they will hear us.
Then again, maybe they’ll put us all in jail for being “vexatious requestors”...
Unless you are an attorney or have worked in a law office, you probably don’t have a clue how to proceed. That is not uncommon.
Most of your “evidence” is against Hawaii as far as I can tell and I think you see that. Unless Obama is linked to that action, you haven’t really hit the target. Try to see if you can find a sample lawsuit on the internet. I will look also. The factual allegation part is where the rubber hits the road.
You have to be able to state your claim in discrete understandable units. I gave edgy or whatever the basics but he got mad and didn’t want to do it.
Once you lay your “case” out in that format, you will be able to sit back and read the narrative. it should flow and be easy to understand.
That is only the first part. Next you have to provide the applicable law, claim or cause of action, in the same format and how the defendant breached those laws or responsibilities.
Then, you have to decide what the remedy is or what the damages are, that is what you are going to ask for. What you want the court to do for you.
This is the BEGINNING. It is what Orly or somebody should have laid out in a cognizable fashion or what the instigators who gig the birthers should have done. Not to have done so is wrong. They basically wound a bunch of you up and turned you loose with little or no idea what you were doing.
So the the Birthers as a group here: Suing the president is kinda a big thing and you don’t approach that like an angry mob.
To sum up, if you guys think you have something, it’s time to get serious and start laying this stuff out in some kind of intelligent fashion. Calling people trolls, posting cutsie pictures, throwing tantrums, and expecting everybody to just accept your version of things is COMPLETELY CHILDISH!
If you can’t put this into an intelligent and structured format, then you can not expect all us non-birthers to just roll over and buy your bill of goods. This is YOUR responsibility. Some of the reasons you get so mad at us is your feelings of inadequacy about your claim (and the fact that we non-Birthers are real good at pokng holes in your stuff!)
But if you think we are tough on you, what do you think a court is going to do if you ever make it there? Or the media? Or the liberals? Or the lawyers on the other side? Do you think they are going to just roll over and say WOW! YOU GOT US!
Get it together, and if you can’t, it might be because you don’t have a case. If that is true, then own up to it, drop this stuff, and get your minds back into the real fights going on.
parsy, who is on his soapbox
and Separate the what from the chaff.