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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

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To: Fred Nerks

LOL! Well done and you are 100% right.


3,681 posted on 03/08/2010 9:19:41 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Red Steel

Neither have I. Apparently he used to be a conservative but something seems to have changed.


3,682 posted on 03/08/2010 9:20:35 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Drew68; BP2
“You birthers want eligibility threads to be nothing more than a groupthink circle-jerk, fine by me.”

The problem here is that EnderWiggins frequently made claims that were either impossible to verify, misleading or in some cases just plain false. He first ran into trouble with me when he claimed to be an expert on security clearances because he said he graduated from West Point. At one point he claimed that the agency responsible for conducting investigations and issuing security clearances for the Army was the FBI. This is just wrong, but the more he tried to wiggle out of this claim the worse things got for him.

I appreciate debating the issues with someone who feels some allegiance to the truth, but it is simply too time consuming to try and verify everything that someone with a fertile imagination can make up. Some of EnderWiggins posts were good illustrations of the types of challenges that those who are attempting to get this issue in front of a jury will face. But the largest portion of the hundreds of pages he posted in the past month was just plain crap meant to humiliate and demoralize others. His pseudonym said it all, he was here to conquer and destroy not to engage in healthy debate.

But Drew, I wouldn't worry very much about his demise. I suspect EnderWiggins has been here before under various pseudonyms and he will most likely be back in very short order. Drew, I for one do not appreciate the term "birther". I do not claim to know the circumstances of Obama's birth. The problem is that everyone in the country should be entitled to know the sealed details of the life of the man entrusted with the fate of future generations of Americans. It is unbelievable that we have a president who insists on hiding nearly every verifiable bit of information about himself. Unbelievable!

3,683 posted on 03/09/2010 12:23:37 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15
He first ran into trouble with me when he claimed to be an expert on security clearances because he said he graduated from West Point. At one point he claimed that the agency responsible for conducting investigations and issuing security clearances for the Army was the FBI. This is just wrong, but the more he tried to wiggle out of this claim the worse things got for him.

I assume the Army CID is responsible for background checks for Army personal. The AFOSI is responsible for Air Force background checks for security clearances.

3,684 posted on 03/09/2010 12:53:04 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: fireman15
But Drew, I wouldn't worry very much about his demise. I suspect EnderWiggins has been here before under various pseudonyms and he will most likely be back in very short order.

Oh, he's been reincarnated 5 to 6 times on FR. ;-)

3,685 posted on 03/09/2010 12:56:01 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

You’re just a fount of joyous information.


3,686 posted on 03/09/2010 8:05:14 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Red Steel
There is a fairly complete article on Security Clearances here:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/01/25/security-clearances-what-who-when-and-why-get-the-answers/

There is no shortage of information available; it was very surprising to me that EnderWiggins started spreading inaccurate information that was very easy to disprove. It was also was very difficult to believe that someone who claimed to have “held an SCI clearance (higher than TS)” could have so many basic misunderstandings. My assumption is that he learned most of what he knows about the military through movies and popular works of fiction along with a smattering of info from Wikipedia.

It should be fairly easy to spot him when he returns in a few days under a new pseudonym. He generates a huge amount of poorly researched information mixed with pure fiction, and makes outrageous claims about his personal experiences. The fictional character Ender Wiggin was a very young genius warrior who annihilated his opponents. I assume that this is how EnderWiggins actually sees himself. I would not be surprised if the person behind the pseudonym is actually closer to 14 than 53.

“Sometimes lies are more dependable than the truth”
“The power to cause pain is the only power that matters, the power to kill and destroy” Quotes from Ender Wiggin from the Orson Scott's book Ender’s Game. These are beliefs at the core of the person we have been dealing with for the past month and a half.

3,687 posted on 03/09/2010 8:49:15 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15

I should’ve guessed there was another alphabet agency that actually did the leg work after I filled out the paperwork every 5 years to renew my security clearance.


3,688 posted on 03/09/2010 9:46:42 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: fireman15; Red Steel
I would not be surprised if the person behind the pseudonym is actually closer to 14 than 53.

I would. To be that evil and capable of twisting at 14? This was an adult with a huge ego.

3,689 posted on 03/09/2010 10:49:07 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
And your little dog too.
3,690 posted on 03/09/2010 2:31:42 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: MHGinTN

YEP — the enemy is within our midst.


3,691 posted on 03/09/2010 4:24:10 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
“To be that evil and capable of twisting at 14?”

Fortunately, you don’t know my nieces. When their dad was in Iraq they stayed with us. They dug holes in the decorative volcanic rock covering our fireplace and chimney using our good silverware. Everyday I was faced with more unspeakable destruction. I tried to reason with them. I carved a custom paddle for the two of them, but was not allowed to use it. They knew I was bluffing. At the time they were just 8 and 12.

But seriously, you are probably right.

3,692 posted on 03/09/2010 9:34:52 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I didn’t mean to touch your outline.


3,693 posted on 03/10/2010 2:19:30 AM PST by bigoil
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To: Drew68

Like I said before: Meddlesome amateurs


3,694 posted on 03/10/2010 2:39:46 AM PST by bigoil
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To: DJ MacWoW

You know, during the 2008 Presidential Campaign, I could never understand WHY I was banned from politijab.com.

I think I’ve figured it out now though.


3,695 posted on 03/10/2010 2:43:20 AM PST by bigoil
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To: fireman15
I have Grandkids like that. They're like their Dad. ;-)

The left has some very evil people. Sometimes, they come to visit FR. Their hatred for the Constitution and this country is incomprehensible.

3,696 posted on 03/10/2010 3:58:51 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: bigoil

Yup. There are Politjab trolls on FR. More than one.


3,697 posted on 03/10/2010 3:59:46 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Las Vegas Ron; BP2

And I value FR so much that I promote it off site and support it financially every month and have since I joined. How much have you contributed to support FR?
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Oh wow, aren’t you special. My question is, how much of that donation is paid out of your own pocket or is that paid by your bosses in order to do your astro turfing here?


3,698 posted on 03/14/2010 6:29:45 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: hennie pennie

*bookmark*


3,699 posted on 06/10/2010 6:22:54 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: butterdezillion

Would someone please enhance the image of the "seal" on the "E. F. Lavender" Kenya Certificate? It is not an embossed seal consisting of discreet points. It looks more like a rubbing of a round coin, 1 1/6 " across, with letters around an image in the center, and a ridge around the edge.

3,700 posted on 10/18/2010 12:31:25 PM PDT by MinutemanCDC_SC (While we yet have self-determination, remove the usurper from office.)
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