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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

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To: edge919

Don’t flatter yourself. I’m laid up in bed today and it is harder to type.

parsy, the brave little soldier


2,141 posted on 02/28/2010 8:16:00 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

So what’s been your excuse before now??


2,142 posted on 02/28/2010 8:17:15 PM PST by edge919
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To: reasonisfaith

They’re too busy spending all the money?

parsy, who has suffered so much at the hands of these evil birthers


2,143 posted on 02/28/2010 8:17:30 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: edge919
Yes, and notice that this law was passed 3 years after the Declaration & 10 years before the 8 years before the Constitution was drafted.

Prior to the ratification of the Constitution, in which Virginia was 9th out of the 13 to ratify, and after the Declaration, the states remained sovereign and thus the common law was the guiding force & that is why things got so bad. Every state had different laws, there was no uniformity. But once the Constitution was ratified, there became a set of uniform Federal laws.

They took the best and tossed out the crap that parsy likes to spew ad hominem.

2,144 posted on 02/28/2010 8:22:06 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: lucysmom

I see you’ve spent about as much time studying the Constituion & US history as parsy.

I’ll be sure to put a nig DRONE star beside your name.


2,145 posted on 02/28/2010 8:24:40 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: patlin

Many (not all) of the charters of the original colonies had by-laws to define natural born subjects and naturalization. This is one thing that didn’t really become uniform with the Constitution. There were some naturalization acts in the early years, but they didn’t immediately talk about how citizens of the states or United States were defined or recognized. I’m pretty sure this was left up to the states. After the Civil War ... the 14-16th amendments are what really solidified Federal uniformity, thus the ensuing court cases would take that lead ... putting more emphasis on a Federal definition or standard, except that none yet existed for a natural born citizen, and still doesn’t.


2,146 posted on 02/28/2010 8:32:03 PM PST by edge919
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To: patlin

LOL! I’m sure you meant “big”

parsy, who doestypos, too


2,147 posted on 02/28/2010 8:32:48 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: edge919
common law that the framers were familiar with:

National character as incident to birth in a particular locality was the creature of feudal times and of military vassalage, and was described as the jus soli ; national character as the result of parentage was the rule adopted by freer peoples and more enlightened communities, and was designated jus sanguinis?

The whole body of the inhabitants of a country enjoying the protection of its laws, including the young who are still under the legal age, and the very old, who have passed the time of action, and all others under any species of disability, are, in a certain wide and general sense, citizens; but the full and complete definition of a citizen is confined to those who participate in the governing power, either by themselves or their representatives. The rights, duties, obligations, and privileges of each class of the inhabitants are different in different states, and depend on the laws and constitution of each.

A citizen, in the largest sense, is any native or naturalized person who is entitled to full protection in the exercise and enjoyment of the so-called private rights.

The naturalborn or native is one who is born in the country, of citizen parents.

Stoicesco, titnde sur la Naturalisation, Paris, 1876, p. 286.; Aristotle, Politics, Book III., C. S. 2 and 3 ; PoKtical Pamphlets, Expatriation and Allegiance, Congressional Library, Washington, D. C.; Walsh V. Lallande, 25 Louisiana Annual, p. 189.; Vattel, Droit des Gens, 1, i. c. six. sect. 212. Ed. Paris, 1863.

2,148 posted on 02/28/2010 8:39:17 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: parsifal

No, they’re just not nearly as smart as they think.

(parsy, who has retreated into his shell)


2,149 posted on 02/28/2010 8:48:02 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. You can't be honest about your agenda because you're not confident in it.)
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To: reasonisfaith
(parsy, who has retreated into his shell)

Because he can't figure out how to come back with a rational & logical non-ad hominem response to my last post.

Here's another one to keep him busy:

Proof of the national character is frequently required; and it is the interest of all concerned that the record of all cases, where national character is the result of judicial action or legislative enactment, should be as simple and, of course, as public as possible. Every one will admit “the importance” to every individual of being able to prove his nationality.

Rights the dearest to man may depend upon it. The capacity of inheritance and transmittal of property, the legality of marriage, the status of children, the right to vote, and eligibility to office may be determined by it.”

International Review, “Naturalization,” September, 1881

2,150 posted on 02/28/2010 8:54:53 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: patlin; parsifal

Hey, how bout it, parsy? Why can’t you defend yourself?

If you have the brains to pick a worthwhile position (and that includes the whole ideology), then you should be able to explain yourself rationally.

Otherwise, you prove me right when I say socialists are mentally defective. Frankly, I’m getting tired of winning debates against leftist trolls, and them having to run back to their supervisors only to be slapped down for failing to meet expectations.

(parsy, a little bit street activist and a little bit trained subversive)


2,151 posted on 02/28/2010 9:08:31 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Hey you noble leftists. You can't be honest about your agenda because you're not confident in it.)
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To: reasonisfaith

I’m just resting up and waiting for the next onslaught of rabid birthers. I can hear them. They are just over the hill..their bonfires burning....the warpaint....their wild whoops and howls.....

The tom toms are beating now. Driving them into a frenzy. Some want to wipe the war paint from their faces and run back to the safety of the villages. The other Birthers won’t let them. The war chiefs are busy plotting the next attack. “He got us on the Wong stuff” they say. “Yeah, and he nailed us on the name calling” another one chips in. “He is in so many places at one time” says the female chief.

“He is invincible, and strong like the bull” says one. “And fleet of mind as the antelope” another one lauds. “He is a mighty warrior and much honor will be upon our tribes if we can but bring him down.” says the Chief of Chiefs.

And so it goes on into the night.

And parsifal laughs! “Let them bang their drums! Let them paint the dark paint of bull manure on themselves to hide in the night! Let them bring their arrows and their spears! They will be as the Weapons of Nerf unto me, and bounce off the Armor of Truth!”

And.....parsifal waits....unafraid....secure....prepared....The Perfect Warrior....

parsifal, the Inhuman Fiend!


2,152 posted on 02/28/2010 9:19:10 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal
“parsy, the sensitive freeper who has been nothing but nice to them”
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Please. Get over yourself.

You have done but mock and ridicule anyone who believes in upholding the Constitution and wanting the truth to be revealed concerning Barry's eligibility.

What you type is rubbish.

Every time you get cornered you try to change the subject and act coy and meek.
You do it every time and on every thread where you feel threatened.

Same ol’ song and dance.
If anyone is still buying your rubbish, they are fools.

Grow up. Most are not buying the act.

2,153 posted on 02/28/2010 9:40:11 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: parsifal

And to think I was admiring your kindly patience just this morning.


2,154 posted on 02/28/2010 9:41:59 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: Aurorales
correction of #2153 You have done "nothing" but mock and ridicule anyone who believes in upholding the Constitution and wanting the truth to be revealed concerning Barry's eligibility.
2,155 posted on 02/28/2010 9:43:26 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: parsifal
So Warrior this one:

Children sub potestate parentis follow the condition of the father; or, if no father, of the mother. If of full age, and emancipated, they are subject to the same rules as any adult person.

Secretary of the Navy. Papers on Naturalization and Expatriation, p. 45. Government Printing Office, Washington, D. C, 1873.

2,156 posted on 02/28/2010 9:48:12 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: butterdezillion
has anyone looked into census records? I don't know if Stnaley Ann would show up as living w/ her parents in 1960 or not...she would have been just barely pg @ the end of 1960.. do they complete the census(taking them) during the 10th year or do they spill over into the following year? If anything..it would show who lived at the newspaper address in 1960...FWIW
2,157 posted on 02/28/2010 9:51:02 PM PST by flowergirl
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To: lucysmom; parsifal
Don't worry. In a few minutes he will be talking about kittens, puppies and candy apples.

He will hand out compliments to anyone who will listen. Then his window will fly open and trinkets of unparalleled wisdom will come reigning down on all of us FReeper peons.

The rhythm of parsley's activity is now predictable.

Rude, mocking behavior. Then know-it-all posts. Then sweet as pie behavior to make everyone like him again.

Watch. It is as predictable as the sun rising.

2,158 posted on 02/28/2010 9:54:00 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: edge919

Parsnip is a psychopath. I’ve seen lists of their characteristics, and although none here (to their good fortunate) have personally met him (maybe some of the other 0-suckups/hirelings have), he seems to fit the descriptsions I’ve read. I’ve known one well personally. Really reminds me of her.

One thing about psychopaths, it’s ALWAYS all about THEM. Always.


2,159 posted on 02/28/2010 10:18:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Aurorales

Upholding the constitution my foot. Since when is running off to some Swiss dude so you don’t have to acknowledge SCOTUS, or English common law’s influence anything but a end run around the Constitution?

parsy, who fell asleep for a few minutes


2,160 posted on 02/28/2010 10:44:43 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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