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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

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To: parsifal
Now one person might date it Americanized. But two subjects dating it Americanized?

Maybe the forger was an idiot, or two signatures/dates belong to people educated in the US?

Do you have any idea how many tens of thousands of Kenyans obtained their education in the US?

1,581 posted on 02/26/2010 5:46:34 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Jedidah

lol. I’m in the middle of feeding my pteradactyls too. Potato soup.

What if the lists were long or if the number of pages for the paper didn’t add up just right? Would those things change the process? Could you see a scenario where a list would be cut in half and only half be printed and the other half be printed later? If so, how much later?

Would there be an agreement to print all the announcements the DOH sent in the list?


1,582 posted on 02/26/2010 5:52:59 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: BuckeyeTexan
And I didn’t just “happen” to ask a lawyer.

You were asked a question and you stated that you asked an attorney the same thing. Funny that......

Look, you come on these threads and try to discourage people from seeking the truth. We know NOTHING about Obama. People have been trying too get the truth since before the election. And yet you and others like you discourage that. Why? He is a shadow. Questions are discouraged by public officials. You don't find that odd? And yet here you are, along with others, labeling people that want the truth as nuts. You want a break? Give one to others.

1,583 posted on 02/26/2010 5:53:18 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You were asked a question and you stated that you asked an attorney the same thing. Funny that......

It's not funny at all. I've been researching and asking questions just like everyone else. And as I said, I discussed Obama's lack of transparency and Orly's freak show with this judge prior to now and posted about it months ago.

There's a difference between seeking the truth and making up your own truth, which is what most birthers tend to do. They repeat Internet rumors as fact. They turn suspicions into fact. They jump to illogical conclusions.

There are very few birthers who are reasonable, but they do exist and I do give those few a break and have productive discussions with them.

1,584 posted on 02/26/2010 6:02:01 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Fred Nerks

I never thought of that. Hmmmmm. There were lots of them? In 1961 and before? I wonder if any of them or their children maybe lived in Hawaii in the 1980s where Race Bannock could have met them.

parsy, who will have to study up on this.....hmmmm.


1,585 posted on 02/26/2010 6:04:39 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Bringing up Orly with me is a lost cause. I know little about her. But you and others like you wave her name around like a club.You have no idea I believe. But you tried to get what you assumed was a shot in there as you mentioned Orly’s freak show in two posts. And that makes my point.


1,586 posted on 02/26/2010 6:12:05 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

We’re supposed to accept his word! Ha ha! Just like we’re supposed to accept his master’s word! Triple Ha ha!

Once bitten, twice shy, as they say...


1,587 posted on 02/26/2010 6:16:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: mojitojoe

He certainly did. And not just a troll, a troll de luxe. A troll among trolls. A troll so bad that I’m worried he may do himself an injury...


1,588 posted on 02/26/2010 6:19:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: DJ MacWoW

No, I mentioned Orly as one of the subjects I had discussed with the judge and offered it as evidence of my prior posts concerning the judge. I made no reference to your opinion of Orly.


1,589 posted on 02/26/2010 6:20:58 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Fred Nerks
Per Honolulu Advertiser story:

"Retracing the steps of history, Eleanor Nordyke now realizes that she was in labor with twin daughters while Barack Obama, now the president-elect, was being born at what is now Kapi-’olani Medical Center for Women & Children."

"When Obama was making his successful presidential run, Nordyke realized that her daughters were born within hours of him at the same hospital."

So Nordyke had no clue that she supposedly was in labor in the same hospital at the same time as SADO until Obama was running for president. Nordyke has zero contemporaneous witness testimony to add to resolve the question of where BHO II was born.

1,590 posted on 02/26/2010 6:21:46 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: butterdezillion

“I think a lot of people realize that something different is going on now than in past years.”

Ooooh yeah. It boggles my mind some days. I have wondered if this is what it must be like to be caught in an avalanche. So much happening around you that you just can’t get a good hold on the totality of it all.

The Czars, the porkulus, cash for clunkers, spitting in Britain’s face (repeatedly), kowtowing to despots while pissing on allies (contrast the treatment of Honduras and Colombia with the treatment of Venezuela), Cap & Trade, the nationalization of health care the endless Obamateurisms ( check out: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/26/obamateurism-of-the-day-218/ ). And that’s just scratching the surface. The list nears endless and we’re only 1/4 of the way through his term...

The focus on perceived irregularities with his vital records or novel interpretations of law regarding what was public knowledge before the election strikes me as like a guy getting pulled over for driving through a school zone at 100 MPH with no brakes and bald tires, the driver stinks of booze, is waving a gun around and has a body in the trunk. But the onlookers want to argue as to whether or not an intermittent taillight meets the legal definition of a broken taillight.

Then those who are more concerned with the dead body in the trunk rather than the taillight get accused of not supporting traffic laws….


1,591 posted on 02/26/2010 6:22:37 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

He’s nothing but a troll. An 0bama-suckup. He wants the truth to remain hidden, obscured, lost, sealed. And so all he does is create diversions, make accusations, revile, ridicule, and ping his fellows for assistance. Which hasn’t happened on this thread, IIRC. I think they’re a bit nervous.

No Piggy Wiggy, either...


1,592 posted on 02/26/2010 6:23:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: butterdezillion

RB made the claim that all this happened in 1980, IIRC.


1,593 posted on 02/26/2010 6:24:01 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Fred Nerks

You know what? I owe you an apology for calling you a moron. It was totally out of line. I apologize.


1,594 posted on 02/26/2010 6:24:30 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
No, I mentioned Orly as one of the subjects I had discussed with the judge

If that were purely the truth you would have simply named her rather than adding derisive references.

1,595 posted on 02/26/2010 6:24:32 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

Of course. If he said it, it must be the truth. *sigh* I am tired of trolls and freepers whose only joy on FR is tearing down others.


1,596 posted on 02/26/2010 6:25:42 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: butterdezillion
"But his representation should have known that in Quo Warranto he could be required to show the documentation anyway so it would save a lot of trouble just to do it right away anyway."

DOJ argued to Judge Carter that quo warranto doesn't apply to POTUS so they intend to fight against any quo warranto.

Judge Carter didn't exactly agree or disagree, but he did state that quo warranto against a federal officer may be brought only in the DC Circuit.

1,597 posted on 02/26/2010 6:26:53 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: DJ MacWoW

I can’t speak of Orly without adding derisive references. I loathe her pathetic freak show that has fooled so many otherwise intelligent freepers.


1,598 posted on 02/26/2010 6:27:36 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: parsifal

His name is RACE BANNON. Race is a Freeper, since 1998:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~racebannon/index?U=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freerepublic.com%2Ffocus%2Fbloggers%2F2457491%2Fposts%3Fpage%3D1581

The Race Bannon story is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2397370/posts

In which Race identifies himself.

The first contingent of foreign students I am aware of, many which came from Kenya, were sponsored by THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN INSTITUE with funds provided by THE ROCKEFELLER BROTHERS TRUST and the CHASE MANHATTAN BANK, with money from STANDARD OIL.

They arrived in the US in the early fifties.

And yes, it’s quite possible ‘if any of them or their children maybe lived in Hawaii in the 1980s’ ...

But how many might fit the description of Obama, and be hanging out at Military bases?:

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_wires/2007Feb06/0,4675,ObamaHawaiianRoots,00.html

“...
As a teenager, Obama went to parties and sometimes sought out gatherings on military bases or at the University of Hawaii that were mostly attended by blacks. He wrote in his book that he tried drugs and let his grades slip in his final years of high school...”


1,599 posted on 02/26/2010 6:32:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: edge919
"My bet is that he doesn’t really know because it was reported to the state registrar’s office by unreliable sources or documents."

In "Dreams," though most likely written by Ayers, Obama says he found his BC many years ago, so it almost certainly wasn't an abbreviated HI short-form, but an original long form, if the account is true. Of course there is a blanket denial of accuracy at the front of the book.

As he moved towards considering taking the oath of office he would have a legal, moral, ethical and patriotic duty to resolve any doubts there might be regarding his eligibility, in my view.

1,600 posted on 02/26/2010 6:36:46 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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