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To: Fred Nerks; hoosiermama; little jeremiah; thouworm

OMG; I thought you were kidding til I read the other posts & then looked at the picture again. I have encountered more scrubbed sites, 404’s, and non-existent urls on wayback machine in the last 2 days than I have in the last 15 yrs combined-—not to mention conflicting information. I was interested in the periods he most tried to hide or disguise of the early days -— Ann, post-baby in Washington; his 80’s trip to Kenya; & Columbia U.

Is his true story ever going to come out?!! I came across a mention that Fox News had interviewed 400 former Columbia U. classmates and not one remembered him.

Are you suggesting he may never have gone to Columbia U? What about Phil Boerner’s credibility?

Phil Boerner ’84: “We both transferred from Oxy to Columbia in fall 1981. Barack had found an apartment on West 109th Street, between Amsterdam and Columbus, and suggested that I room with him.....After that first semester, we had to move. Barack tried to find an apartment for both of us, but was only able to find a studio for himself. I was able to house-sit in Brooklyn Heights....

Through different living arrangements in Astoria, Queens; Bay Ridge, Brooklyn; and all over Manhattan, we stayed in touch and remained friends for the rest of our college years. He got to know my girlfriend from Arkansas, who is now my wife. Since I last saw him in 1985, we have exchanged a few letters and photos. He left for Chicago, and I eventually settled in Sacramento.”

http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jan_feb09/alumni_corner


“In about 1982, [(Hal) Sohale] Siddiqi and Obama got an apartment at a sixth-floor walkup on East 94th Street. Siddiqi managed to get the apartment thanks to subterfuge.

Siddiqi said his female friends thought Obama was “a hunk.” “We were always competing,” he said. “You know how it is. You go to a bar and you try hitting on the girls. He had a lot more success. I wouldn’t outcompete him in picking up girls, that’s for sure.”

The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama’s time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won’t, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan’s Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn — one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights.

His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan’s Upper East Side.”

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=F1C46FDE-3048-5C12-00ED1702A906DC5F


Early in his campaign I was telling friends & family he was a Trojan Horse; I’d rather be wrong.


9,598 posted on 08/18/2009 11:35:27 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: thouworm

you’re not wrong...however, what I meant by ‘maybe he was never there’ was on the bench in the park.

For some reason...it appears to have been necessary to place him between the grandparents, and the only reason I can think of, is that they were estranged.


9,599 posted on 08/18/2009 11:57:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: thouworm

Last fall the blogger named Zombie did some investigating of 0’s Columbia years and came to some rather frustrating conlusions because there was little evidence if any that he was living the life described in Dreams. (I hope this doesn’t come out with lots of strange letters and stuff because I’m pasting it out of a Word document.)

“The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obama’s time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It won’t, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattan’s Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn - one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights. His memoir mentions two others on Manhattan’s Upper East Side. In about 1982, Siddiqi and Obama got an apartment at a sixth-floor walkup on East 94th Street.”
That’s seven different locations in total.

However, a quick perusal of the phone books from the period suggest otherwise — that Obama moved into that 94th Street apartment shortly after first arriving, and stayed there the rest of the time while in New York: This page from the 1982 Manhattan phonebook lists “B. Obama” as living at 339 East 94th St. (The 1982 directory is the first one Obama could have appeared in, since the 1981 directory was printed before Obama’s arrival.)

Yet this page, from the 1985 Manhattan phonebook, shows that he was still living at the same address — even having the same phone number. And he was in the following year’s directory as well, still at 339 East 94th St.

How could that be? As Obama’s campaign said in the quote above, and as Obama details in Dreams From My Father, he moved several times while in New York, sometimes sharing a room with others.

The only feasible explanation would be that Obama rented the 339 East 94th St. apartment (shown here), and then moved out while subleasing it to others, still maintaining the apartment and the phone in his name. And while acting as a sort of freelance landlord, collecting renting from his sublessors, he was still broke and kept having to move from place to place himself.

But seriously: How likely is that? It’s much more likely that Obama simply stayed in this one location the entire time, and later concocted a tale of being poor and itinerant as part of some narrative about his rise from poverty, or something along those lines.

Zombie also includes photos of some of the alleged residences and the phone directory pages.

http://www.zombietime.com/obama_and_the_weather_underground/

This just adds more to the mound of 0’s lies and misrepresentations about his life.


9,620 posted on 08/19/2009 5:37:44 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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