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To: thecodont
I'm trying to think about how the culture of that time was, and this would seem to be very likely.

Absolutely. Unless she took off and went to Kenya -- the idea that started this whole thread. But, if you go to this link A chronological life story of Barack Obama this web author makes a powerful argument that Frank Marshall Davis is the real father and that the Dunhams slipped cash to Barack Obama to take the heat for the pregnancy. We know that BO was always in need of $$$ and we also know that FMD was a friend of Stanley Dunham -- in fact he frequented the Communist Party HQ which was very near the furniture store where Papa Dunham worked. Davis and Dunham were drinking buddies. It isn't a far reach to imagine that Davis would have been one of the first people that Papa Dunham introduced to his wife and daughter when they arrive on the island since they wouldn't know very many people at that time.

It appears that Papa Dunham went to Hawaii ahead of the women, as they were waiting for Ann to graduate from Mercer High. Being alone in Hawaii would mean that Dunham had a lot of time on his hands to seek out the characters that he always sought. His curiosity might well have led him to the Communist Party HQs where he encountered poet Davis.

Ann, who had never had a boyfriend, but who was intrigued by counter cultural ideas, would have been fascinated by FMD. FMD was married at the time and wrote a pornographic book under a pseudonym which told the tale of seducing and sexually educating -- with his wife -- an innocent under aged girl named Ann! In fact awakening her to the point that she ASKED to be secuded. And then he goes to great lengths describing all of the techniques they taught her and congratulates himself on giving her a great sexual education that would benefit her the rest of her life.

Does this scenario sound familiar? Of course, FMD hides the identity by writing under an assumed name, by claiming that this was a work of "fiction", that the girl was "13", and that her name was "Anne".

Draw me a map!

FMD had already served time for rape. He was being watched closely by the FBI. He'd go to jail if he were exposed as the impregnator of a 17 year old, unmarried girl. In fact, that was the common slang for a girl like Stanley Ann in those years -- jail bait. It's not a far stretch to think of Stanley Dunham trying to help his buddy out by providing a cover. And then later promoting a friendship between his grandson and his drinking buddy -- father figure, or true father?

Well, I don't know if I believe all that, but it makes sense on one level.

8,841 posted on 08/12/2009 9:38:43 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

secuded=seduced!


8,842 posted on 08/12/2009 9:41:46 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
But, if you go to this link A chronological life story of Barack Obama this web author makes a powerful argument that Frank Marshall Davis is the real father and that the Dunhams slipped cash to Barack Obama to take the heat for the pregnancy.

Didn't press sec. Gibbs say something recently (in the context of BO's birth certificate) about DNA testing? What was that all about?

8,846 posted on 08/12/2009 9:57:28 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Another nagging question: where did the Dunhams get the money to move to Hawaii? This would have been a costly move. So it’s not only “why?” but also “how?” What kind of trouble might Stanley or Stanley Ann have been in, and who might have bankrolled them?

This may be a case of “follow the money.”


8,849 posted on 08/12/2009 10:00:07 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What year was the book published...

A pedophile might lower the age from 17 to 13 to make the reading more tittilating...

Ann may have seemed and acted younger than the average 17 year old of that time...


8,856 posted on 08/12/2009 10:21:45 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This has probably been addressed already, but Davis’ book was printed years before he met the Dunhams, maybe even before Ann was born.


8,921 posted on 08/12/2009 3:20:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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