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To: Fred Nerks; hoosiermama
Might it be that she enrolled as Stanley Ann Dunham because she had to identify herself when she enrolled?

I wonder which ID she used to do so -- it surely would have been her old Washington state ID, with her unmarried name before she left for Hawaii.

I've long said that IF she was in Hawaii for LESS than 12 months, as Hawaii state law requires, it would have caused problems with residency requirements in Hawaii.

It's rather amazing that all of the "gates" are just BARELY met for his legitimacy, such as: Ann's initial 12 months in Hawaii; Obama's time in Indonesia less than the 5 year period of automatic citizenship for minors; there TWO divorces but no marriage certificates present or found; no adoption papers; no official name changes; etc.

It's almost as if attorneys looked at the events in his life, figured out the pinch-points, and had Obama "reconstruct" the facts to keep him "legal" or leave room for doubt ... just crazy, huh?

8,625 posted on 08/11/2009 6:32:15 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Can you make any sense out of the thing I sent the five of you last night....

Thought about putting it i timeline form but was just too tired and you’re much better at that.

Our town had a big fire and I couldn’t sleep with the smoke in the air.

Not sure how awake I was.


8,641 posted on 08/11/2009 8:47:30 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: BP2; Fred Nerks; hoosiermama
It's almost as if attorneys looked at the events in his life, figured out the pinch-points, and had Obama "reconstruct" the facts to keep him "legal" or leave room for doubt ... just crazy, huh?

At what point in time did he start "reconstructing" the facts about his life? His Illinois state senate campaign, his Illinois U.S. Senate campaign, or before then? When was Dreams From My Father written?

If his personal history has been "sanitized" (I am agreeing with you) they started working on it years back.

8,645 posted on 08/11/2009 9:10:38 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: BP2
I wonder which ID she used to do so -- it surely would have been her old Washington state ID, with her unmarried name before she left for Hawaii.

Firstly, I ask myself, what provenance exists for the November 21, 2008 letter from Stuart Lau - I cannot recall the initial source. Is a letter such as this all one can expect as the result of an FOI request? Should there not have been an official attendance record provided? What we see is nothing but a scan...of what may have been a photo-copy.

However, the attendance record from UW shows graduation from Mercer Island and a period of credits from Hawaii; again, the Philosophy credit shows an X - another extension course? The 'Russian 100' makes me wonder...these classes were reportedly conducted at the East-West Centre. How was the UH connected to the East-West Centre?

It's almost as if attorneys looked at the events in his life, figured out the pinch-points, and had Obama "reconstruct" the facts to keep him "legal" or leave room for doubt...

That's why sometimes, my POV may appear somewhat radical...but I try to ignore what we are EXPECTED to believe.

IF she was in Hawaii at all in 1960, IMO it was for a very SHORT period. Her enrollment as Stanley Ann Dunham at UW may reflect that at the time of enrollment she was NOT using the name Obama...perhaps because she had no ID in that name?

ATLAS SHRUGS. SOURCE:

Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:

Autumn 1961

Winter 1962

Spring 1962

The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

Madolyne Lawson Office of Public Records 206-543-9180

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And, as we have since discovered, it's possible she was never physically there, the courses shown may have been correspondence courses...that matter is still open to debate.

Now allow me to ask a hypothetical question. I imagine myself as a physically handicapped student who wishes to study and graduate. I cannot attend an enrollment interview. A parent takes to the university whatever records I can supply - and I am enrolled. I study at home...or far, far away...

8,689 posted on 08/11/2009 4:15:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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