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To: BP2
I wonder which ID she used to do so -- it surely would have been her old Washington state ID, with her unmarried name before she left for Hawaii.

Firstly, I ask myself, what provenance exists for the November 21, 2008 letter from Stuart Lau - I cannot recall the initial source. Is a letter such as this all one can expect as the result of an FOI request? Should there not have been an official attendance record provided? What we see is nothing but a scan...of what may have been a photo-copy.

However, the attendance record from UW shows graduation from Mercer Island and a period of credits from Hawaii; again, the Philosophy credit shows an X - another extension course? The 'Russian 100' makes me wonder...these classes were reportedly conducted at the East-West Centre. How was the UH connected to the East-West Centre?

It's almost as if attorneys looked at the events in his life, figured out the pinch-points, and had Obama "reconstruct" the facts to keep him "legal" or leave room for doubt...

That's why sometimes, my POV may appear somewhat radical...but I try to ignore what we are EXPECTED to believe.

IF she was in Hawaii at all in 1960, IMO it was for a very SHORT period. Her enrollment as Stanley Ann Dunham at UW may reflect that at the time of enrollment she was NOT using the name Obama...perhaps because she had no ID in that name?

ATLAS SHRUGS. SOURCE:

Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:

Autumn 1961

Winter 1962

Spring 1962

The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

Madolyne Lawson Office of Public Records 206-543-9180

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And, as we have since discovered, it's possible she was never physically there, the courses shown may have been correspondence courses...that matter is still open to debate.

Now allow me to ask a hypothetical question. I imagine myself as a physically handicapped student who wishes to study and graduate. I cannot attend an enrollment interview. A parent takes to the university whatever records I can supply - and I am enrolled. I study at home...or far, far away...

8,689 posted on 08/11/2009 4:15:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks
it's possible she was never physically there

She received passing grades in all her courses. They were introductory courses. In my experience, almost all introductory courses have a final exam as a minimum. More advanced courses may be "paper only"

There's only two possible explanations: She was physically there to take the finals, or she pulled a Ted Kennedy and had someone take the finals for her.

8,690 posted on 08/11/2009 4:53:51 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fred Nerks; All

Fred:

Study this letter.Do you notice anything odd about the dates?

The date for receiving her BA in Mathematics seems about right, considering the fact that she had a small child and was being courted and was back and forth to Indonesia in that period. But, then look at the MA? It says that she started the MA in the Fall of 1983 and received it in December of 1963 -- clearly impossible.

The PhD is even odder. It says she started it (presumably) in the Spring of 1984. Makes sense, if she'd just gotten her MA in 1983. (She divorced Soetoro in 1980) But then it says that she didnt finish until 1992. Was she enrolled in the UH for 8 years? Was she working at UH, or some place else?

THe dates in this letter are screwy -- especially the ones for the MA. And I've never heard of a school awarding a degree unless you spent the last year in residence. Maybe a PhD wher you go elsewhere to write your thesis, but not a BA or a MA.

8,740 posted on 08/11/2009 9:03:25 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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