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To: Windflier

I think we’re heading toward a mis-communication here. I don’t think that Zero is eligible to hold the office of President under our Constitution.

Yes, “it’s a problem” for every patriot who understands the clear meaning of the Framer’s intent, in that we must find a way to enforce the proscriptions of our founding document.


That’s why we have a Supreme Court, to determine the Framer’s intent in the instances where their intent is not crystal clear. The framers also established the constitutional amendment process to revise their own work in future eras. It will be for the current or for future Supreme Courts to decide whether the 14th Amendment revises Article Two/Section One. Is a Citizen at birth identical to a Natural Born Citizen? Obviously, in the case of Barack Obama, that is the interpretation that prevails.

You are in effect saying that Chief Justice John Roberts is not a patriot because he swore in Barack Obama as president.


8,397 posted on 08/09/2009 10:39:09 AM PDT by jamese777
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Do you OT pay for doing this on the weekends or this your normal shift?


8,405 posted on 08/09/2009 11:54:47 AM PDT by GregNH
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To: jamese777
You are in effect saying that Chief Justice John Roberts is not a patriot because he swore in Barack Obama as president.

Don't tell me what I'm saying "in effect". I haven't spoken a word about my thoughts on Justice John Roberts.

I'm not inside John Roberts' head, so I can't know what internal struggles he may have gone through in administering the oath of office to Obama.

Everything I know about the man says that he is honorable, and an American patriot. But, he is just a man. No doubt, he has the same failings and weaknesses we all do. We can't know what forces, real or imagined, may have compelled him to rotely follow ceremony and procedure in that circumstance.

Perhaps our Justices are not as informed about current events as we would hope them to be. Perhaps they are more informed than we are, but are pawns in a game that is much too large for them to win from their present station (hard as that is to believe). We honestly can't know their minds on this, until they open up to us, if indeed they ever do.

I will say this, though. In the end, your honor and your personal integrity are more important than your immediate life. We are in the condition we are in today because of the compounding of cowardice, both small and large, for many decades. None of us have clean hands, but most especially those we've entrusted with protecting our freedoms and liberties.

I would have preferred for Justice Roberts to have fully confronted the extraordinary circumstances in front of him, and make the courageous choice, but he chose otherwise. Why, I do not know.

8,461 posted on 08/09/2009 8:12:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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