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To: Technical Editor

I beg to differ.

Native born = kid born in US
Natural born = kid born in US (or US jurisdiction i.e. military base) AND both parents being US citizens

If there was not a distinction between the two, there would have been not need for a Sentate committee and vote to iron out McCain’s eligibility. The founding fathers included this term in the Constitution for POTUS eligibility to prevent loyalties to other countries.

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html


5,082 posted on 08/03/2009 7:23:37 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: bgill

This is where Elg comes in...and in my Opinion..screwed up and mixed the terminology...but nevertheless, it is the law.


5,090 posted on 08/03/2009 7:33:45 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bgill

I posted a link to the law, didn’t I?

The two parents are NOT REQUIRED if you’re born outside the U.S., but if BOTH PARENTS ARE U.S. CITIZENS, there is NO QUESTION but that you ARE a natural born citizen.

READ the damn LAW!!

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401
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§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

You have NO LAW to back up what you allege. Read the damn law.

It specifies what is needed when only ONE PARENT is a U.S. citizen and the child is born outside of the U.S.

What they said about McCain applies to him because he WAS BORN OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES AND BOTH PARENTS ***were***
U.S. citizens. Having two parents who are citizens just makes it supereasy to tell someone born outside the U.S. is a natural born citizen. Having ONE parent only who is a citizen means the AGE provisions have to be met for that parent. Neither case has ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to do with a child born INSIDE the United States. Read (a) in the law. That is the current law and that is what tells you who is a citizen at birth, which means NATURAL BORN. That is, the person is a citizen at THE MOMENT the first breath is taken.

See? Born??? Citizen at birth?? They mean the same thing.


5,110 posted on 08/03/2009 7:52:43 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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