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The Bill Clinton situation is really not apropos here.

This is not a case of someone commiting purjury in a court case.

This is circumventing the Constitution. This is a commission of a fraud.

I never said with any certainty that the military would have to step in. I will say this though, I do believe that if and its a Big IF the facts of this case proves to be true there may be some kind of civil unrest if this is not fixed. The big question will be does the Constitution represent the law of the land or not? Are we a Republic or a third world country?

Public opinon does not and should not matter. It is the law.

He may to you be president but for me, until he produces his birth certificate he is not mine.

If he is not an American Citizen by birth, and the Congress and Courts do not do their duty, then you may have people armed with torches and pitchforks ready to take care of this. No, I do not want this.

Like I said in an earlier post, I hope for this country’s sake that in the end he is proven to be an American Citizen, because I feel that all of us here regardless as to our position in this matter want this to be so.

I believe that Bill Clinton committed high crimes and misdemeanors in trying to fix a civil trial (for money and reputation), that he conspired to fix a court case (with Monica Lewinsky, Betty Currie), that in furtherance of that conspiracy he suborned perjury (of Monica Lewinsky, Betty Currie), conspired to hide evidence, hid evidence (gifts hidden under the bed), and actually committed perjury (too notorious to require recounting). These were all felonies and as such they qualify as "high crimes and misdemeanors" under the constitutional standard for impeaching a president. Further, the president is the chief law enforcement officer in the land and by committing a string of felonies he breached his constitutional duty to see to the faithful execution of the laws-which misfeasance constitutes additional impeachable offenses. One need only consider the brouhaha over the alleged misrepresentations to Congress of Attorney General Gonzales, or the ordeal of Scooter Libby, to understand the gravity of the real offenses committed by Clinton.

It is clear from the impeachment of Bill Clinton that public opinion is terribly important and it no doubt was the intentions of the framers of the Constitution that the will of the people be taken into account in the matter of ousting a president or else they probably would've put it in the hands of a court or some other body not as responsive to the will of the people.

I said not as responsive because, clearly, the history of the United States Supreme Court reveals that it is not indifferent to public opinion. One need only reflect on the court packing scheme which did not generate enough public opinion to persuade Congress but came close enough to intimidate the court.

I do not think it is altogether a bad thing that public opinion is felt by our institutions. We always have the tension in government between the role of the elites and the rule of the mob that is why we have a written constitution and that is why we impeach leaders who are found to be without integrity or, officially, to have "committed high crimes and misdemeanors" -like Bill Clinton.

I hope for this country’s sake that in the end he is proven to be an American Citizen, because I feel that all of us here regardless as to our position in this matter want this to be so.

Honest disclosure: I do not wish for Obama to be proven to be a US citizen for the reason that he has demonstrated an antipathy toward this country, its people, our history, our culture, our laws, our established way of life, our traditions, and above all, our Constitution.

That being said, I don't actually wish for him to be proven to be a Kenyan citizen, but am willing to accept that he may be so, in which case, I fully support his removal from office.

I'm also willing to accept that he is indeed an American citizen by birth, but I do not hold to the concept that he is eligible to hold the office of President, because of the nationality of his father.