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To: Fred Nerks

And all I was trying to do first was figure out the 1936 vs 1934 dates on the two forms and get input from folks about the dates.

Then answer your question on where were the differences in handwritng on the two forms .

I hadn’t gotten to the memo yet.

Is there any validity to seizethecarps point about blanks being filled in later as a result of data being filled in by a clerk during a phone call or because of 0 SR coming in to the office and the clerk is filling it out in front of o SR ?


10,900 posted on 04/11/2013 10:44:41 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Only you and the person making the claim can answer that. I am not going to be the ham in the sandwich. Ask the freeper who told you that, ask him to show you what it was (THE SOURCE) that brought about his POV or opinion.

Don’t tell me, show me, might be a good approach.


10,901 posted on 04/11/2013 10:59:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57
...Then answer your question on where were the differences in handwritng on the two forms .

You make it sound as if you were looking for something to help me out, believe me, I asked you that question about the differences in the writing only SO THAT YOU WOULD SEE THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE.

Most people haven't even noticed.

The answers to questions on that form that the kenyan did complete, was obviously what he wanted the immigration department to know.

The answers to the questions that the additional handwritng completed might just be what the person who added it, WANTS US TO KNOW.

You'll never know WHO it was because they didn't sign it. And you'll never know WHEN the material was added, because it isn't dated.

I gather that the formal, accepted method is to write a memo by hand or type it, with a date and a signature. If you scroll through the file, you'll see that's how most of the questions are treated.

Why should this one be different? The information added is crucial to the mythos of birth and parentage. It's simply not good enough IMO to have it appear UNDATED AND ANONYMOUSLY.

10,902 posted on 04/11/2013 11:13:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: WildHighlander57

The Woods memo

An additional document from Obama Sr.’s INS file is relevant: a handwritten memo dated Aug. 31, 1961, by William Wood, as seen in Exhibit 5.

Exhibit 5: Barack Obama Sr. INS File, Woods Memo, Aug. 31, 1961. Click to enlarge.

The memo’s use of the term “claims” suggests the information came from Obama Sr., possibly at an in-person meeting with an officer at the INS office when he filled out and filed his visa extension form.

The memo confirms Dunham was leaving Hawaii to attend school in Seattle, an additional factor the INS would have examined had an investigation been undertaken into the legitimacy of the marriage and the fatherhood of the child.

In the last paragraph, the memo notes the child was living with the mother at the home of the grandparents, while the Kenyan was living at the Alencastre Street address – facts that did not need to be seriously considered if the only relevant question in extending Obama Sr.’s visa was whether or not he was then a student in good standing.

Interesting, the note appended to the memo suggests the information the Kenyan provided raised serious questions about the wife and child that would need to be answered if he were applying for more than a temporary stay.

Given that the INS was not going to conduct an investigation, the Woods memo appears to document only what the Kenyan said and did not determine whether or not the claims were true.

While Obama Sr.’s INS files do not prove he was not the father of the future president, they provide ample documentation the officer was skeptical the Kenyan was legitimately married to Dunham and/or was the biological father of Barack Obama II.

By deciding to stay with the temporary student visa status, the Kenyan obviated the need for an INS investigation that might have uncovered in 1961 that the marriage was fraudulent and the biological father of the child was someone else.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/senior.htm


10,908 posted on 04/11/2013 11:36:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (so?)
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To: WildHighlander57

THE WOODS MEMO

10,909 posted on 04/11/2013 11:40:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (so?)
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