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1 posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
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To: rxsid

It does’nt seem wise to me for thenm to file court motion in California.


3,716 posted on 08/02/2009 5:02:54 PM PDT by Tempest (Honk if I'm paying for your bonus.)
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To: rxsid

obumpa


3,786 posted on 08/02/2009 5:27:26 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: rxsid

I’ve been looking at the BC off-and-on all day. Something was bothering me, so I looked it up, I tried looking up E.F. Lavender and couldn’t find anything. Problem was that a million hits to detergents and room fresheners makes searching hard. I then looked up Mombasa because I wondered where it was.
Mombasa wasn’t part of Kenya in 1961.
Mombasa was part of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963.
Was Obama born in Zanzibar?


3,788 posted on 08/02/2009 5:27:50 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (thirst for absolute power is the natural disease of monarchy - Thomas Paine)
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To: rxsid

I just have one question. If this is from Kenya, why is it written in English? I will admit that I have no knowledge about Kenya, but don’t believe that their official language is English.


3,860 posted on 08/02/2009 5:49:48 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (According to the MSM, I'm a fringe sitting, pajama wearing Freeper)
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To: rxsid

I’d say it’s a fake.


3,871 posted on 08/02/2009 5:52:35 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: rxsid

The Kenyan BC says Obama was born in Mombasa Kenya in 1961

From:
http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Mombasa.htm

Excerpt:

Mombasa remained a part of Zanzibar until 1963 when it was ceded to the newly independent state of Kenya.


3,918 posted on 08/02/2009 6:10:11 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: rxsid

bump


3,924 posted on 08/02/2009 6:11:44 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: rxsid

Definitely giving this a bump.

So is Biden president until we get a qualified (or unqualified) for Obama with his birth certificate?

Think about if this had happened to McCain.......Palin would be president! Wowzies!


3,934 posted on 08/02/2009 6:15:21 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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Clinton Leaves on a Seven-Nation Africa Visit
02 August 2009

U.S Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is scheduled to leave Washington Monday on a seven-nation Africa visit. The five day trip will take her to Kenya, South Africa, Angola, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Nigeria, Liberia, and Cape Verde.

interesting timing

3,985 posted on 08/02/2009 6:36:33 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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Question for George Soros:

?Mister Soros, when you were collaborating with the NAZIS, as you admit in your autobiography, if German citizens asked to verify Hitler?s documents (and thus his position), would you have supported vetting Hitler?s documents??

Follow-Up Question for Soros:

?Mister Soros, if Hitler spent 1 million deutchmarks hiding his birth certificate, would you have asked to see it? Or would you have told Germany to ?Move On???


3,993 posted on 08/02/2009 6:40:28 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (Obama is the new OJ. Hey Omoslem, getting nervous yet?)
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MOTHER OF PEARL! I can't believe I read the whoooooooole thing!

9 hours!

{Collapses}

4,125 posted on 08/02/2009 7:28:38 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: rxsid

Fake but accurate.


4,134 posted on 08/02/2009 7:32:02 PM PDT by I got the rope
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I’m only going to believe this if DEBKAFiles verifies it’s true.


4,138 posted on 08/02/2009 7:34:49 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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Significance of Mombasa OK, making assumptions that The Prince was born in Mombasa, --why Mombasa?

Mombasa is the 2nd largest city of Kenya. It is the only significant port in Kenya, and the biggest port on the African coast of the Indian Ocean.

1961.....before the DC-8 or the Boeing 707, most long distance intercontinental travelers to underdeveloped countries were still using ship transport, though air transport was growing rapidly.

So there is a very high probablity that Stanley Ann Dunham would have transited Mombasa in traveling to Kenya.

Secondly, where might she find Barack, Sr.? He was a Harvard PhD economist, which means he was a highly placed individual in a dirt-poor country. After Harvard, he ended up as an economist in the Ministry of Transport. Though their tribal lands are in the west, the Luos have a long history with the transportation system in eastern Kenya. In the 1960's, everyhing imported to Kenya entered through Mombasa.

Barack the Elder was Muslim. His tribe, largely Christian. Where would he gravitate to? The Muslim coast.

The Luo tribe provided labor for Mombasa and the Nairobi-Mombasa railroad as far back as the 1890's and were a spark for the AWF (African Worker's Federation) uprisings of the turn of the century.

So, Lots of Luos in Mombasa (the registrar on the supposed Kenyan BC has a last name of "Oduyo", a common Luo surname) especially muslim Luos. It seems like a good location for a man like Barack, Sr., plus it would keep the strange girl away from the tribal homelands and his other wives. And Mombasa has long had great hotels on their beautiful beaches. like Hawaii.

4,160 posted on 08/02/2009 7:45:07 PM PDT by cookcounty
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If this pans out, SCOTUS will have to order a recount of the 2008 Electoral College vote, with the votes for BOH disqualified due to Constitutional ineligibility. This would mean that the John McCain assumes the Presidency. I guess Biden would still be VPOTUS, since there aren’t any such issues with his eligibility.

Not an ideal situation, but a hell of a lot better than what we have now.


4,252 posted on 08/02/2009 8:18:58 PM PDT by nabalzbbfr
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To: rxsid

I really want to see this, but I can’t get it to download. I don’t know what I am doing wrong. Is anyone else having trouble?


4,269 posted on 08/02/2009 8:25:51 PM PDT by Protest
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To all,

I am Orly’s webmaster, a larger pic is on my site at www.ObamaNotQualified.com
and on Orly’s site
www.OrlyTatizEsq.com

FYI, the Malware warning on Orly’s Blog is bogus! just bypass it.

Regards, Jim


4,348 posted on 08/02/2009 9:04:58 PM PDT by ObamaNotQualified.com (obama kenya birth certificate eligibility = obama not eligibile = obama not qualified)
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It has the same information like my Danish Long Form Birth Certificate!!!


4,643 posted on 08/02/2009 11:01:29 PM PDT by danamco
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I got as far as post 232 before I had to respond somehow, and I held off as long as I could.

This is probably fake.

If it's not, I'm sure the powers that be have contingencies in mind. A taste of civil unrest for a week or so might entice people to "all get along."

A court of law couldn't convict OJ Simpson.

4,645 posted on 08/02/2009 11:02:07 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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(Started in June...Kenya was to be a republic in 6 months)
June+6 months =DEC of 63

How Kenya’s Flag Was Designed.
The Nation (Kenya)
December 09, 2006

(From The Nation (Kenya) - AAGM)

Byline: John Kamau

Immediately after independence in 1963, Kanu wanted its flag to become the national one. But the ever cautious Thomas Joseph Mboya, the Justice and Constitutional Affairs minister at the time, decided that this was too risky and the party leaders secretly crafted one that looked almost similar.

Police were also given orders to arrest anybody who showed disrespect to the national flag.

Incidentally, many Kenyans do not know why the national flag is protected, or why it is illegal to fly it on our roof tops. In fact, anybody selling miniature flags risks prosecution.

It has all got to do with Mr Mboya who asked the Kenyatta Cabinet to protect the flag after it emerged that some settlers - and Kadu fanatics - were mocking it even before it was unveiled.

Mr Mboya also wanted words such as harambee, madaraka and jamhuri protected from abuse. There was a recurrence of this in 1979 when President Moi gazetted nyayo as a protected word.

History books

But how did Kenya settle for the current flag? It is a story that one will hardly find in the history books; in fact, it has not been included in the school lessons.

It all started in June 1963 when Mr Mboya called President Kenyatta’s office and told him that if Kenya was to become a republic in six months, which Kadu dismissed as laughable, they needed to get a new flag, an emblem and a national anthem.

First, Mr Mboya wanted Mzee to call an urgent Cabinet meeting to tackle the issue, although some of his colleagues wanted Kenya to simply adopt the Kanu flag.

It was feared that registering a new flag and having it approved by the British queen, then the head of state, would take much longer, and that there was the risk of Kenya becoming a republic without a national flag.

In fact, Mr Mboya was opposed to the adoption of the Kanu flag, arguing that there might be “unpleasant incidents” during the independence celebrations.

“While there is some justification in simply adopting the party flag for this purpose, such a course would undoubtedly give rise to considerable bitterness and resentment in certain quarters, and this would lead to unpleasant incidents,” he told the Cabinet.

“This danger would be particularly marked at the independence flag-raising ceremony, which is a strong emotional event, and any commotion here would be most unfortunate as the ceremony will receive the widest international publicity.”

It is not clear who floated the idea of the Kanu flag becoming the national one, but reading through minutes of deliberations of the inter-ministerial committee one sees the hand of Kanu hardliners - who later came together as the so-called Kiambu mafia led by Mr Mboya’s Cabinet colleagues James Gichuru, Mbiyu Koinange and Njoroge Mungai.

Good opportunity

“The national flag must be a symbol of unity and freedom,” Mr Mboya submitted in one of the papers. But he still wanted the Kanu flag to have its place in the Kenyan history and this, he thought, was a good opportunity. The papers show that he suggested that the national flag have the same design as Kanu’s - complete with the colours.”

This, however, was not an original idea; in fact, he had copied it from Tanganyika and Uganda which had modified the winning parties’ flags to become the national ones. “It is not without significance that our neighbours, Tanganyika and Uganda, both saw it fit to use the ruling party flag simply as a basis for the national flag,” he said in defence of his mischief.

The opposition Kadu (Kenya African Democratic Union), led by Mr Daniel arap Moi and Mr Ronald Ngala, had always threatened to scuttle the celebrations as they demanded a delay of the republican status.

But the ever wise Mr Mboya came up with a suggestion to mollify Kadu. Since the flags of the opposition party and Kanu were almost similar, why not merge all the colours in one flag? he argued.

Fortunately, Kanu and Kadu have flags that are similar in design,” he later wrote to Mzee and the Cabinet. “Both have three horizontal bands and two similar colours - black and green. The difference lies only in the third colour - red for Kanu and white for Kadu.

“It would be a wise and unifying act of grace to have all the colours in the national flag. It would also save the country any unpleasant incidents, bitterness and resentment.”

But there was the question of if it was appropriate to have white to represent the multiracial society. White was the third major colour in the Kadu flag and Mr Mboya suggested that it be retained as a “small strip” separating the others.

The onus of selecting the colours was left to Mr Dawson Mwanyumba, the then Kanu Taita chairman and minister for Works, Communication and Power. Unlike the other Kanu leaders, Mr Mwanyumba was a moderate. And it was his small team that decided that white be included.

“It would be a magnanimous gesture towards our political opponents and would be an act tending to unity rather than dissension, “ Mr Mwanyumba told the Cabinet.

The Cabinet had earlier suggested that gold be a tiny strip separating the major colours. But Mr Mwanyumba, on June 26, told Cabinet colleagues that “the inclusion of gold strips does not go far enough (in pacifying the opposition),” and described it as a “shortcoming which may well arouse bitter and resentful feelings.”

The Cabinet adopted white to denote the multiracial society and pacify Kadu, but the ministers decided to have a different meaning for the colour. Black was to denote the people of Kenya, red the struggle for freedom, white unity and peace and green agriculture and natural resources.

Having thus conspired against Kadu and downgraded its main colour and the vision of a multiracial state into a small strip, the next hurdle for Kanu was the queen.

Since registering a new national flag would take more than six months, Mzee and his Cabinet conspired to have the flags manufactured even before the queen approved the final design. The idea was sold to the Cabinet by Mr Mboya who argued that time was not on Kenya’s side.

Distributed by AllAfrica Global Media. (allafrica.com)


4,667 posted on 08/02/2009 11:14:15 PM PDT by OL Hickory (I AM JIM THOMPSON!!)
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