Posted on 01/17/2009 1:52:28 PM PST by JoeProBono
CHAMA, NM - Several meandering V-shaped UFOs near a mountain slope here turned up on a woman's digital photos. Three photos shot with a 21 megapixel camera caught multiple crafts approaching in the first frame, one craft in frame two moving close to the ground while the others take positions in the sky, and then frame three shows all of the crafts moving out of the area.
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First of all, unless you hand typed this document and are responsible for the many typos, it is clearly fake. But, even if not fake, nowhere does it say they have any evidence of ETs. This is nothing more than a document outlining contingency plans in the event an ET is discovered. Note this sentence:
“it is recommended that a conterintelligence program be drawn up and held in abeyance if at such time the situation should present itself.”
This is nothing more than a document on what to do if such an event occurs. The government plans for all kinds of wild events, and this is just one of them. Once again, you are reading something into it, that is not there.
“THE AIR FORCE ITSELF RELEASED IMMEDIATELY A DOCUMENT TO THE PRESS THAT THERE WAS A ROSWELL UFO CRASH etc.”
No, they released a press statement saying it was a “disc” (they never said it was a UFO crash, because they had no idea what it was. When it was later discovered to be part of an intelligence operation did they create a cover story.
I’m guessing you still think the alien autopsy on tv a few years ago was genuine. I know, everyone I am familiar with who is an ET believer was convinced it was real.
“Perhaps some day someone will kindly introduce you to reality”
It’s always entertaining when UFO nuts, who have no hard evidence other than the rantings of other UFO nuts, accuse the rest of us of not facing reality. You are making claims about something otherwordly and it is up to you to prove your thesis with hard evidence, not speculation.
“As with Copernicus, it takes only one to be right and everyone else to be wrong, when it comes to Science.”
Not to mention, Copernicus made careful observations, recorded the movement of planets and presented undeniable evidence on his findings. Something the UFO nuts have yet to accomplish.
And put on a raincoat, because Quix's head will explode.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread428842/pg1
1897- first crashed UFO case (with alien) documented
1897
Sighting by Hundreds of People
This is thought to be the first well documented sighting of a UFO...and includes a purported crash sight and crash site examination.
In the spring of 1897 a cigar shaped object was seen by numerous Americans as it made it’s way around the United States from San Francisco to Chicago. Hundreds lined the lake front to watch for it’s appearance. Astronomers suggested that they were watching the bright star Big La goose. In April of that year, newspapers reported that a cigar-shaped spacecraft crashed into Judge J.F. Proctor’s windmill and exploded. People around the town of Aurora, Texas rushed to see the wreckage where they said they found the body of a tiny pilot. It was examined and pronounced to be unlike any inhabitant of this world. A pilot’s log of undecipherable writing was also mentioned in the original news dispatches along with the account of a Christian burial for the tiny space pilot by the townspeople.
In 1973 Dallas Times Herald reporter Bill Case dug beneath the site of the crash and found a number of metallic shards and took them to Dr. Tom Gray, a physicist at North Texas University. Dr. Gray reportedly stated that at least one of the strange pieces of metal had defied analysis. The reporter compared his metal detector readings from the crash site to those at the grave of the space pilot. The unusual signals were identical. The first documented American UFO sighting and crash remains a mystery after one hundred years. Do you suppose we could remove DNA from the remains of the pilot and check the mitochondrial DNA against the common human mitochondrial as described in Lloyd Pye’s book “Everything you know is wrong” to see if indeed we are related/unrelated? According to Mr. Pye, everyone on earth can be traced that way back to the same mother. Do you have an encounter or comment you would like to share with us? comments
Another account of the incident was quoted like this; In the spring of 1973, the Dallas Times Herald ran some stories about a UFO “crash” in April, 1897. A small, shiny, “cigar-shaped” craft was said to have crashed into a windmill in Aurora, Texas. The strange craft’s tiny pilot was said to have been “blown to pieces.”
How did the Times Herald learn about the “crash”? Bill Case, a reporter, found the story in an 1897 Dallas newspaper. Later, Bill Case and a treasure-hunter named Frank Kelley went to the “crash site.” They dug up a few scraps of “strange-looking” metal. By mid-June, news reporters, curiosity seekers, and UFO fans were piling into Aurora. A new interest in UFO’s was born — at least in that part of Texas.
Sorry, Quix, but since it’s from ATS I’ll ignore it as I would anything from the indymedia or Kos.
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread430247/pg1
SOURCE LINK:
UFO files to be released under Obama Open Government Memoranda
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January 22, 12:30 AM
by Michael Salla, Ph.D., Honolulu Exopolitics Examiner
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Obama signs Executive Orders on Jan 21. AP Photo
On his first full day as President, Barack Obama issued two Executive Orders and three Presidential Memorandum that will start an era of transparent and Open Government. The White House Office of the Press Secretary released a statement outlining the sweeping changes to be implemented by the Obama administration. In his Presidential Memorandum on Transparency and Open Government, and the Presidential Memorandum on the Freedom of Information Act, President Obama instructed
... all members of his administration to operate under principles of openness, transparency and of engaging citizens with their government. To implement these principles and make them concrete, the Memorandum on Transparency instructs three senior officials to produce an Open Government Directive within 120 days directing specific actions to implement the principles in the Memorandum. And the Memorandum on FOIA instructs the Attorney General to in that same time period issue new guidelines to the government implementing those same principles of openness and transparency in the FOIA context.
President Obama emphasized that his Administration “is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government.” He furthermore said in a press conference announcing his Memoranda:
For a long time now, there’s been too much secrecy in this city. The old rules said that if there was a defensible argument for not disclosing something to the American people, then it should not be disclosed. That era is now over. Starting today, every agency and department should know that this administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information but those who seek to make it known.
Obama’s bold initiative for Open Government reflects the influence of the Co-Chair of his Presidential transition team, John Podesta. Podesta has long been an outspoken advocate of Open Government. On September 16, 2008, he gave a speech before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution titled “Too Much Secrecy Puts Our Nation at Risk.”
Along with Leon Panetta, the new Director of the CIA, Podesta helped craft the Clinton Administration’s efforts to implement greater government openness through the passage of Executive Order 12958. Passed on April 17 1995, EO 12958 made it easier to declassify national security information that had been unnecessarily classified for decades. The Bush administration later neutralized key sections of EO 12958 thereby making it harder to declassify documents.
Less well known is that in October 22, 2002, Podesta petitioned for the release of UFO files that had been unnecessarily classified. He said: “I think it’s time to open the books on questions that have remained in the dark on the question of government investigations of UFOs.”
John Podesta speaks about releasing UFO files at National Press Club
President Obama has decided to act quickly and decisively in instructing all adminstration officials to take action to implement principles of Open Government and Transparency. In the case of classified X-Files dealing with evidence of UFOs and extraterrestrial life, Obama’s Memoranda will make it easier for the release of such files in cases where national security is not compromised. The consequences of the release of X-Files of different government agencies and military departments will be momentous if they confirm that extraterrestrial life is visiting Earth.
I never took that to be real.
Fantastic! Then maybe we'll find out about the birds which just happen to be the actual subject of this thread.
“The consequences of the release of X-Files of different government agencies and military departments will be momentous if they confirm that extraterrestrial life is visiting Earth.”
You have no idea how classified information is declassified. They don’t just grab files out of a bin and release them to the public. Teams of people (mostly retired people still holding TOP SECRET clearances go through documents that have reached their classification expiration and review them for anything that could divulge means and methods, or could put the lives or well being of living people in danger. Some documents are completely declassified, others are redacted, and still others are reclassified. Once the documents are declassified they are not released but put on a list of recently declassified documents. It is up to the media or common citizens to request these documents. What will happen is, all the documents about UFO studies will be released and when there is nothing in there that shows evidence of alien visits the UFO nuts will claim there is a cover-up. Since the government can’t prove a negative, the fun will continue.
I forgot to tell you another interesting tidbit regarding highly classified documents. Spelling and grammar errors were often introduced purposely in the text. Each copy, manually prepared, contained a different mistake. Records were kept that tracked who viewed or “checked out” which copy. If the information were disclosed they could narrow the field of suspects merely by seeing which “tracers” were present in the leaked information. Also, people tend to correct spelling and grammar errors when they copy documents, so the absense of those “tracers” could also be used to narrow the search for the leak.
These are techniques the Army teaches.
YUP!
It really is rather kind of you . . .
to so persistently display the naysayers’ typical breadth and depth of abject cluelessness on the realities of such issues, forces, situations . . .
The UFO stuff has allowed the ruling global Oligarchy
unprecedented power, technologies etc. with which to race the world forward into the global government faster than they’d otherwise have been able to manage.
It all seems to be working quite well for them, from their perspective.
No surprise there . . . evil tends to enjoy evil . . . for a time.
My relative insisted that our ‘CLEAN-UP CREWS’
could go more or less instantaneously to any spot on the globe and clean-up a crash without utmost power and authority—thoroughly—without any significant hassles.
Didn’t matter which country.
Besides . . . the Soviet/USA charade was engineered by the Oligarchy long ago . . . The Soviet and Chinese sides have also been useful in experimenting with various forms of tyranny in prep for the final most horrific versions.
Your comments are consistent with what I knew as a Radioman in the Navy at a Comm Ctr.
JoJo is simply grossly wrong . . . a sadly frequent state.
"Lacking any discernible intake or exhaust features, it is the opinion of AMC and ONF that this craft was designed to operate outside of the earth's atmosphere. The unconventional conclusions reached by members of this fact finding mission remain tentative at this time. Some members expressed the view that ULAT-1 may be the product of an advanced culture from another planet...."
There were at least two more stronger statements to that affect in the document. You don't read carefully when you have an agenda, do you?
I didn't write that document, I read from the same source as you.
As I explained in posts that were not directed at you, military reports were not edited prior to the use of PCs. They were prepared on manual typewriters; and, corrections were deemed too expensive and of no instrinsic value.
I was an officer in the Army AJC. I was explicitly taught that only Congressional and Presidential correspondance was proofed and edited. Reports were never proofed.
What is the quality of documentation produced by your peers, even with Word helping? I find that most people produce reports of poor quality. In military circles, it is the information that is deemed important, not the beauty of the document.
I don’t recall ever putting the autopsy video very high on my confidence schema.
There’s still arguments about what it really is. Who knows.
Your understanding of the Roswell stuff remains horribly deficient . . . in concert with seemingly your understanding of the whole field.
You never did comment on the UTTER STUPIDITY of the AirForce claiming dummies were mistaken as UFO critters when the dummies in question were not used until 5 YEARS AFTER
ROSWELL.
Convenient to ignore facts as usual, eh?
Typical of naysayers.
We’ve reported an abundance of links and info for FIRST HAND EXPERIENCERS with testimony beyond the quality routinely used to convict murderers to execution.
Folks choose to believe the MSM KoolAid laced disinformation.
We have no control over such tendencies.
No exploding head at all.
Klass has 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000% credibility with me.
Guess I’ll have to post Stanton’s stuff on it.
By and by.
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