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Thompson Played Grant _ No Hero in South
AP via SFGate ^ | 11/13/7 | Jim Davenport

Posted on 11/13/2007 1:06:08 PM PST by SmithL

Charleston, S.C. (AP) -- Fred Thompson has gotten a lot of mileage out of his movie and TV fame as he runs for the Republican presidential nomination. And on Tuesday, speaking at The Citadel military college, he made sure to mention one of his recent roles: president of the United States, in the movie "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee."

But that wasn't all good for someone campaigning in the South.

"Some people say I've got a little making up to do," he said. "The last role I played when I was in the movies — I played Ulysses S. Grant." That's the Northern Civil War general who went on to become president. But it could have been worse.

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To: wardaddy

Any hardships and deaths among the civilian population of Vicskburg were due to the fact that Pemberton chose to hole up there with his army. Had Pemberton not done so then none of that would have happened. Sorry if that bothers you but as the wise man once said, war is hell.


161 posted on 11/14/2007 8:18:38 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
War is hell....

then don't bitch about Ft Pillow next time it pops up Mr Platitude.

162 posted on 11/14/2007 9:01:45 AM PST by wardaddy (This country is being destroyed by folks who could have never created it.)
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To: wardaddy
then don't bitch about Ft Pillow next time it pops up Mr Platitude.

First you'll have to point out the first time I bitched about it. The bitching about Pillow all seems to be on the Southron side, which get's all huffy at being reminded that the confederacy was loathe to taking black Union soldiers prisoner.

I'm constantly amazed at how you Southern supporters seem to think that in all recorded history only the Southern civilian population had the right not to suffer during the war that their leaders started. Sieges weren't new. Armies living off the land wasn't new. The fact that civilians die as a result of the war wasn't new. Yet you seem to think that somehow the Southern population should have been immune from all that. The fact of that matter is that I would defy you to name a single instance where a rebelling population suffered less during their war, and were punished more mildly for their actions after losing their rebellion than the Southern states were. My God, at the same time as the Vicksburg seige, China was finishing a civil war that had killed over 50 million. Eighty years later over one million civilians died in the siege at Leningrad. A handful of civilian dead in Vicksburg are nothing by comparison. Never in the course of human history has more complaining been done over less suffering than by the Southron supporters.

163 posted on 11/14/2007 9:18:11 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
i note that NOBODY is much interested in the unionist/revisionist PROPAGANDA that you post, to try desperately to cover up the WAR CRIMES & CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY committed by the DAMNyankee invaders.

especially targeted for abuse/looting/plundering/assaults/robbery/arson/rape & MURDER by the "filth that flowed down from the north" were AmerIndians,Asians, Blacks (BOTH slave & free), Catholics, Jews, Latinos & the "poorest of the poor whites".

otoh, the wealthy planters of the southland were frequently protected by the union army in return for collaborating with the enemy. in other words, the elites out of the north, in return for $$$ & information, protected the "planter aristocracy" from harm, while PREYING ON the poor & minorities.

i'm sure that that is NOT a story that you DY elitists want to be told, as it makes the invaders look like the GARBAGE that many of them demonstrably were.

free dixie,sw

164 posted on 11/14/2007 9:28:59 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Yet another helping of sw BS.


165 posted on 11/14/2007 9:36:15 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
"war is hell" is a convenient EXCUSE for you (& for others like you) to TRY to excuse "the FILTH that came down from the north" for their WAR CRIMES.

had it been YOUR family that was tortured/raped/robbed/abused & finally "slaughtered like cattle", you wouldn't be so "cavalier" about what was done to my family & THOUSANDS of other dixie families.

of course, you don't really care about what was done to a bunch of "poor Indians", do you, N-S??? just because they were NOT white, were poor farmers and UNarmed, civilian, elderly men,small children & women, that made what was DONE by the DYs perfectly acceptable to you???

free dixie,sw

166 posted on 11/14/2007 9:41:44 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

And the bullsh*t just keeps on coming...


167 posted on 11/14/2007 9:43:12 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
i note that you did NOT deny that i was 100% accurate about the DYs protecting the wealthy, while PREYING ON the poor & minorities. (your not wanting to defend the ATROCITIES is perfectly understandable, as what was done in dixie by the DYs, was INDEFENSIBLE!)

free dixie,sw

168 posted on 11/14/2007 9:45:23 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
don't you just hate it when i point out that you support/defend the worst acts of the INVADERS/OPPRESSORS, while the (mostly poor) southerners fought & died for LIBERTY???

free dixie,sw

169 posted on 11/14/2007 9:48:47 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
i note that you did NOT deny that i was 100% accurate about the DYs protecting the wealthy, while PREYING ON the poor & minorities. (your not wanting to defend the ATROCITIES is perfectly understandable, as what was done in dixie by the DYs, was INDEFENSIBLE!)

Well, when I called it bullsh*t I didn't think that I also had to deny the accuracy of your wild-ass claims because any rational person would understand that that kind of goes along with the label. But since you insist, then I deny that any of your bullsh*t claims are true. Happy now?

170 posted on 11/14/2007 9:48:51 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: stand watie
don't you just hate it when i point out that you support/defend the worst acts of the INVADERS/OPPRESSORS, while the (mostly poor) southerners fought & died for LIBERTY???

Doesn't bother me at all. I just consider the source.

171 posted on 11/14/2007 9:50:13 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
well, denying what was done by the FILTH is understandable, given your PREJUDICES, but does you NO honor.

free dixie,sw

172 posted on 11/14/2007 9:55:31 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
well, denying what was done by the FILTH is understandable, given your PREJUDICES, but does you NO honor.

No, I'm denying what you are claiming is true. I'm denying that virtually anything you've ever claimed is true. And if that makes me dishonorable in the eyes of the forum, well, I'll just have to learn to live with it. Now go back to your village and leave the adults alone.

173 posted on 11/14/2007 9:59:04 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: stainlessbanner

This is a non-issue with me. If he’d of played Sherman, the story would be different.


174 posted on 11/14/2007 11:54:58 AM PST by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Thermo-Nuclear Landscapers Inc. "Need a change of scenery? We deliver!")
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To: stand watie
had it been YOUR family that was tortured/raped/robbed/abused & finally "slaughtered like cattle", you wouldn't be so "cavalier" about what was done to my family & THOUSANDS of other dixie families.

What state did that happen in again? You've told it so many ways.

175 posted on 11/14/2007 11:55:22 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
laughing AT you. as i've said for several weeks, associating with "the DYs of the coven" is causing you to "lose it".

PITY, as your posts used to be worth reading, even when i thought you were just blowing HOT air and/or deceiving people here.

free dixie,sw

176 posted on 11/14/2007 2:13:31 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
You're right swattie.

What was done to your people was horrible.

Lincoln hated trolls and never missed an opportunity to inflict his wrath on them.

And don't get him started on sock puppets ...

177 posted on 11/14/2007 2:13:46 PM PST by x
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
don't you get really tired of being laughed AT & thought to be a clumsy LIAR, a south-HATER & a BIGOT???

fyi, you're RUINED on FR, as you cannot be believed on ANY subject, since you admitted that:

1. you committed a criminal fraud to try & win an argument on a WBTS thread (talk about DUMB - that was DUMB!),

2 admitted that you were BANNED FOREVER from FR & "came back" under a different alias &

3.said that you "used to be" Heyworth", who was banned for BIGOTRY (WHY would ANYONE want to be "known" as that CREEP???)

as a result of those & other "stupidities", you are roundly viewed as "untouchable". have you noticed that hardly anyone else but "x" & i will post to you (there IS a reason for that.)???

free dixie,sw

178 posted on 11/14/2007 2:22:05 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: x; All
laughing AT you.

posting silly, meaningless, pointless nonsense (like #177) is WHY you are thought to be "mentally challenged" & "below the minimum standards of a FReeper".

PLEASE continue,though, as you DAMAGE "the DY coven", with every DUMB post.

free dixie,sw

179 posted on 11/14/2007 2:25:47 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
in other words, MURDERING 50 people is MORE ACCEPTABLE morally to YOU than MURDERING 100 people???

at what point are you willing to call what "the union army" did in dixie a massive CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY??? ===> 1000 civilians murdered, 5000 murdered or more than that???

if the DYs had murdered HALF of my family (just because they were NOT "white people"), instead of virtually all of it, would you think the DYs were "merciful to have spared the other half"???

a simple YES/NO answer, stripped of your usual radical revisionist propaganda, half-truths,diversions,deceptions & self-serving, sanctimonious, NONSENSE is requested.

free dixie,sw

180 posted on 11/14/2007 2:49:11 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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