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To: adiaireton8; kawaii
I'm trying to inject some charity here.

Nice try, but the well was already poisoned.

We can grant that the other person is still worshippping the one true God, but with misconceptions about the nature of that one true God, or misconceptions about how the one true God should be worshipped, etc.

There is a point at which one must conclude that the other person is not worshipping the same God. As a general rule Catholics and Protestants all agree with the Nicene and Apostles' Creed, hence it can be stated with assurance that both Catholics and Protestants worship the same God, even where there are some disagreements in regard to doctrinal issues related to what God has revealed.

Islam does not subscribe to even one point of those creeds, hence they do not have a misconception about the one true God, they worship a false God. Kawaii seems to think that Protestants worship a false God, but as far as I can tell, he has yet to make the same claim about Muslims.

He can hold to that opinion all he wants. If that is what he believes, then I'm glad it's out in the open. I prefer clarity to agreement and kawaii has made his position clear.

142 posted on 05/11/2007 9:30:11 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
Kawaii seems to think that Protestants worship a false God, but as far as I can tell, he has yet to make the same claim about Muslims.

I don't think I can say with certainty that the Catholics worship the same God the Orthodox do. But I will say unequivocolly that I suspect the Muslim god is literally Satan, though I suspect that the protestant god is as well.
147 posted on 05/11/2007 9:34:32 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Nice try, but the well was already poisoned.

I'm starting to realize that.

There is a point at which one must conclude that the other person is not worshipping the same God.

I completely agree.

As a general rule Catholics and Protestants all agree with the Nicene and Apostles' Creed, hence it can be stated with assurance that both Catholics and Protestants worship the same God, even where there are some disagreements in regard to doctrinal issues related to what God has revealed.

I agree.

Islam does not subscribe to even one point of those creeds, hence they do not have a misconception about the one true God, they worship a false God.

I disagree, because your conclusion is a non sequitur. The Jews do not subscribe to the Apostles or Nicene creeds either, so do you say that they worship a false God? If so, then you come very close to the Marcion heresy, as I pointed out to Vladimir earlier in this thread.

Kawaii seems to think that Protestants worship a false God, but as far as I can tell, he has yet to make the same claim about Muslims.

From my perspective, if Protestants worship some other being than the one true God, then a fortiori so do Muslims. So it seems to me that kawaii would deny that Muslims worship the one true God.

-A8

150 posted on 05/11/2007 9:42:24 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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