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To: P-Marlowe
Nice try, but the well was already poisoned.

I'm starting to realize that.

There is a point at which one must conclude that the other person is not worshipping the same God.

I completely agree.

As a general rule Catholics and Protestants all agree with the Nicene and Apostles' Creed, hence it can be stated with assurance that both Catholics and Protestants worship the same God, even where there are some disagreements in regard to doctrinal issues related to what God has revealed.

I agree.

Islam does not subscribe to even one point of those creeds, hence they do not have a misconception about the one true God, they worship a false God.

I disagree, because your conclusion is a non sequitur. The Jews do not subscribe to the Apostles or Nicene creeds either, so do you say that they worship a false God? If so, then you come very close to the Marcion heresy, as I pointed out to Vladimir earlier in this thread.

Kawaii seems to think that Protestants worship a false God, but as far as I can tell, he has yet to make the same claim about Muslims.

From my perspective, if Protestants worship some other being than the one true God, then a fortiori so do Muslims. So it seems to me that kawaii would deny that Muslims worship the one true God.

-A8

150 posted on 05/11/2007 9:42:24 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8; kawaii
I disagree, because your conclusion is a non sequitur. The Jews do not subscribe to the Apostles or Nicene creeds either, so do you say that they worship a false God?

No, but in failing to recognize the Deity that is described in the old testament and revealed in the new testament, they do not worship God. They pay homage to the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, but in failing to recognize the third person of the trinity as the promised Messiah and as Jehovah himself, they do not worship God.

In their failure to recognize the one true God and to call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I would have to say that they bow before idols. Any who reject Jesus as the Lord God Almighty and who claim to worship "God" are, in fact, worshiping idols.

I suspect that any Jew who rejects Jesus as God would say that by worshiping Jesus Christ, I am worshiping idols. At least one of us is wrong.

So it seems to me that kawaii would deny that Muslims worship the one true God.

Do you believe that Muslims worship "the one true God"? If so, please define "the one true God."

171 posted on 05/11/2007 10:59:00 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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