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FreeRepublic | 4/3/07 | Reaganesque

Posted on 04/03/2007 7:24:18 PM PDT by Reaganesque

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To: ChiTownBearFan
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261 posted on 04/03/2007 11:47:29 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: Blackirish; FredHunter08
The virulent strain of these 2007 sign ups bashing Rudy smack of campaign operatives opposing camps.

The attacks on %100 pure blood lib Lowell Weicker weren't this poisonous.

262 posted on 04/03/2007 11:49:53 PM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: zarf

The virulent strain of these 2007 sign ups bashing Rudy smack of campaign operatives FROM opposing camps.


263 posted on 04/03/2007 11:50:30 PM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: FredHunter08; zarf
So let me get this straight. You knew about FR for a while but it wasn't’t the border...Nancy Pelosi undermining the WOT...the repubs spending money like they hate the stuff that bothered your conservative sensibilities to join up and post.

It was Rudy’s poll numbers....riiiight.

264 posted on 04/03/2007 11:50:55 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish
“You knew about FR for a while but it wasn’t’t the border...Nancy Pelosi undermining the WOT...the repubs spending money like they hate the stuff that bothered your conservative sensibilities to join up and post.”

When did I say I’d known about FR for “a while”? I usually just write to my representatives.

“It was Rudy’s poll numbers....riiiight.”

It was the prospect of a pro-gun control Republican candidate.

265 posted on 04/03/2007 11:53:48 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: zarf
“The virulent strain of these 2007 sign ups bashing Rudy smack of campaign operatives opposing camps.”

Ever think you’re just really paranoid? LOL!

266 posted on 04/03/2007 11:54:26 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: zarf
"I own weapons for self defense...that's the only reason I own them."

Wonderful. You also stated that you came to the conclusion, that you did not need them in NY, and you didn't particularly care that they are essentially banned there. I lived in Chicago, LA, been in Milwaukee, Detroit, and lots of other places that are very similar to NY and know w/o a doubt that an effective self defence, is only available with firearms. Giuliani not only denied NYers the right, but he also did his best to take it nationwide. For that, he deserves the wrath of gun owners.

"No, I don't think Rudy is going to take my guns away."

WHatever. He already did it to some FReepers, and it's well know he only allowed special folks to keep there's. His record speaks for itself, and contradicts what you say.

"I will own them and have the right to defend myself and my property before and after he took office."

That's an empty statement, since you already indicated you were happy with Giuliani's grab in NY.

267 posted on 04/03/2007 11:56:42 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: FredHunter08
“Ever think you’re just really paranoid? LOL!”

And you really think that Rudy would risk alienating his base by being a gun-grabber when even the Gore and Kerry think it’s a dead issue.....and you call us paranoid?

268 posted on 04/03/2007 11:57:53 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish
“And you really think that Rudy would risk alienating his base by being a gun-grabber when even the Gore and Kerry think it’s a dead issue.....and you call us paranoid?”

Yes. I do. It’s too much his nature.

“I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. “
- Barry Goldwater, 1963

He lies when he says that was only about NYC - never mind the idea that NYC is no longer part of the United States and subject to the Constitution - as he tried to destroy the arms industry and institute bans NATIONWIDE.

269 posted on 04/04/2007 12:00:34 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: Blackirish
"you really think that Rudy would risk alienating his base by being a gun-grabber"

What do you mean risk his base? Gun owners don't support him, unless you're talking about wanna bees and the country club shooters. Giuliani's already alienated them. He's a Daley, that isn't so fond of high taxes. Hence, his base is the CC crowd.

270 posted on 04/04/2007 12:07:29 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: FredHunter08
Ever think you’re just really paranoid? LOL!

Actually, just wise to alot of the games that go on around here! ROTFLMAO!

271 posted on 04/04/2007 12:08:03 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: zarf
“Actually, just wise to alot of the games that go on around here! ROTFLMAO!”

What you accuse me of in this thread is pretty virulent in its own right.

272 posted on 04/04/2007 12:10:55 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: Blackirish
The Rudy supporters have shown a lot of class in the face of a vitriolic, relentless attack. Some of these attackers have shown an intolerance that makes the DUmpster crowd look like a bunch of boyscouts.

I will be joining you in supporting whomever is the GOP general election standard-bearer. I don't think the Republic will survive eight more years of the clinton's tepid response to jihad.

273 posted on 04/04/2007 4:55:54 AM PDT by AdvisorB ( FREE SCOOTER! FRY COUEY AND MUMIA!!)
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To: Merry
Merry, it is your money, do with it as you will.

I cannot help but notice, though, that when Rudy's past record is brought up, with its notably unconservative actions, initiatives, and statements, that somehow this is considered "abuse".

The credibility of a political statement is ordinarily inversely proportional to the proximity of the election. This time, however, the campaign has begun early.

The only way to know where the candidates stand is to seek out and discuss their prior records, warts and all.

If we do not, we can be assured the opposition will, especially in the general election campaign.

If that scrutiny is to be considered abusive, so be it. Failure to conduct it serves neither the party, the electorate, not the Republic.

274 posted on 04/04/2007 4:57:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Mr.Smorch
The Rudy supporters have shown a lot of class in the face of a vitriolic, relentless attack.

What a purely lasless comment. Clearly you are not watching the game very closely and are not presenting an unbiased point of view here. In the last week, posts pulled from Rudy supporters have outumbered those by intelligent freepers who refuse to support a liberal scumbag by well in excess of 5 to 1, so take your lies back to what ever liberal forum you belong on, but it's not FR.

275 posted on 04/04/2007 4:59:13 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (One fish, two fish, I want to go catch bluefish.)
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To: FredHunter08
He lies when he says that was only about NYC - never mind the idea that NYC is no longer part of the United States and subject to the Constitution - as he tried to destroy the arms industry and institute bans NATIONWIDE.

Liberals don't give a damn about the constitution, and Rudy is a liberal.

276 posted on 04/04/2007 5:00:29 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (One fish, two fish, I want to go catch bluefish.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

A lasless comment, LOL!

I guess the truth hurts, right?


277 posted on 04/04/2007 5:01:39 AM PDT by AdvisorB ( FREE SCOOTER! FRY COUEY AND MUMIA!!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
“Liberals don’t give a damn about the constitution, and Rudy is a liberal.”

Yes, he is. Makes one wonder at the motivation of those who DEMAND our vote for him.

278 posted on 04/04/2007 5:08:27 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: Mr.Smorch

Do you support Giuliani?


279 posted on 04/04/2007 5:15:54 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (One fish, two fish, I want to go catch bluefish.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I think there is a difference between opposing Guiliani and stating clear reasons for it in a calm manner, vs. attacking the man personally, and even attacking his wife.

I don't know who I am backing yet and probably won't make a decision for several months, if at all. My primary is very late and the nominee will be chosen by then, so I am trying to not get too involved yet.

However, the calling of Guiliani supporters "Rutards," the attacks on Mrs. Guiliani (calling her everything from a whore to a puppy killer) and the posting of pictures of Guiliani in drag are really not contributing to the political discussion in any meaningful way. Neither are the attacks on Romney's faith (such as these keywords) nor the insinuations about Thompson's work ethic. It is rather reminscent of the Brownshirt behavior in the 1930's which the left has enthusiastically adopted, and I don't like it at all.

280 posted on 04/04/2007 5:20:31 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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