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This is why you should vote for Rudy. Lets first address the social issues. Let's start with pro-homo. He's AGAINST gay marriage.

Where is the proof of that other than a talking point? Yes, it's not the government's job to regulate what people do in their bedrooms, but it sure is to regulate marriage. Right or wrong, that's a fact. So it's the government's job to regulate gay marriage as well. Whether that means permitting or forbiding gay marraige is up to us, the individual states, or it should be. Of course it isn't, since Roe v Wade, that has had a lot of impact on state's rights, not just abortion. So that's where that war will eventually be won or lost, at first, the federal level. This is why we need someone who clearly is against even the idea of homosexuality, not someone who's been pictured in drag.

As far as abortion goes, we have a pro-life President now but we are still having abortions. No president has the power to stop abortion. Rudy has already said he supports strict constructionist judges like John Roberts. He constantly praised the President for appointing Roberts and Alito. He said Roberts is his ideal justice. Assuming Rudy gets elected President and appoints Roberts-like justices then maybe Roe v. Wade will get overturned. But even if it does get overturned I hope you're not naive enough to think that would stop all abortions. The abortion issue would then revert back to the states and do you really think California would outlaw abortions? Being pragmatic in our thinking we all know we can't completely stop abortions. Therefore voting solely on this issue very unpragmatic. I hate abortions too but I realize that regardless of how many pro-life presidents we elect, its just not going to stop.

Basically what you're saying here is that "since we can't stop all abortions, why try to stop some?" That's a defeatist attitude, demonstratively weak by the following analogy, "Since we can't stop all murders, why try to stop murder?"

Even beyond that, let's look at the facts:

1. Rudy is pro-choice. Sure, he may have supported the recent nominations by Bush, but do you honestly believe that was for "constitutional reasons", and not for political points? The man is pro-choice! He's not going to nominate anyone who isn't pro choice. Roberts and Alito are pro-life, and no matter what the president said about the reason for his nomination of those two, you or anyone cannot possibly tell me that their pro-life convictions didn't come into play as PART of the reason they were chosen. The reverse would clearly apply to Rudy: He would never nominate anyone pro-life, it just wouldn't happen, "strict constitutionalist" aside.

2. And let's talk about his "strict constitutionalist" mentality for a minute. The man is a gun grabber, no pro-Rudy person on this thread can possibly deny that. Where is THAT in the "strict constitutionalist" mentality?

3. Back to the discussion about abortion though: Sure, if Roe v Wade is overturned, then the issue goes back to the states, but again, to say that simply because some highly liberal states like CA would continue offering abortions, this means that the entire fight against abortion is worthless, is defeatest! There are plenty MORE states that would enact laws outlawing abortion, in fact, some have laws on the books right now that will immediately go into effect if the issue is thrown back to the states. Quit being defeatest, if you really do oppose abortion!

All of this said, I would of course vote for him over any other Democrat in the general election. But that doesn't mean that, right NOW, we have to simply shut up and take what the "inside the beltway" GOPers want us to take! The time is now to get a REAL conservative on the ticket, and quit being the party of comprimise!