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To: Responsibility2nd; Victoria Delsoul
Mary Cheney is among that burgeoning group of adult women over age 20 that are driving the trend of women who don’t want a man in the picture, but want to have a baby

To be fair, the author should at least consider the possibility that adult men over the age of 20 are rejecting some of these women. Lesbians aside, many straight single women want to have children on their own. It's not necessarily the women who don't want a man in the picture - many of these are cases of men who don't want these women in the picture.

165 posted on 12/07/2006 10:17:55 AM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: HitmanLV
many of these are cases of men who don't want these women in the picture.

Should not such women take a look at themselves and figure out why they are not attracting men?

I mean isn't this just the inverse of the whiny "nice guy" who sits home alone because he won't do whatever it takes to change into something more desirable to women?

189 posted on 12/07/2006 10:30:31 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Rick Santorum in 2008, or 2012 or whenever we get serious about Islamofascism.)
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To: HitmanLV; Responsibility2nd
Mary Cheney’s action sets an example that is detrimental for mothers with less financial resources who will start down an irrevocable path into poverty that tends to be generational –– children in households without a father tend to themselves have unwed births later in life.

No, Mary Cheney’s action doesn't set an example that is detrimental for mothers with less financial resources who will start down an irrevocable path into poverty that tends to be generational. Young, poor women were having children out of wedlock long before Mary's mother was even born. It isn't Mary's action that sets an example, but our morally bankrupt society as a whole sets the tone which creates a fertile ground for actions like this to flourish.

To point out one individual as the cause celebre for dysfunctional families in America reaches a new low in the arena of melodramatics.

Would Mary's marriage to a financially successful man ensure the wellbeing of her child? Isn't it a fact that Mary's sexual orientation is an impediment to such a relationship, and no marriage to a man would change this fact?

The writer's position is that women shouldn't have children out of wedlock – and I agree with that. However, abortion isn't the solution to remedy such pregnancies.

It is true that a fatherless child might tend to derail, but so are the children of married heterosexual couples. There is more danger to our children's wellbeing from exposure to the sexual escapades and drug filled orgies of our pop culture icons and politicians, as well as the sexually immature antics of pop artists like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, than exposure to a woman choosing to NOT aborting her child.

As I see it, the problem isn't having a child, but the environment in which this child will grow up. Mary is a successful woman, I'm sure she doesn't need welfare or government handouts to raise her child, but it is her sexual orientation that will deprive her child of a a father figure, and he or she will grow up with a distorted sense of what family means.

Is she selfish for doing this? Yes, I believe so, and I might add that she is also wrong, but under such circumstances – being that Mary is a lesbian – marrying a man to have a child wouldn't have changed the view point of the child. As he/she got older, he/she would've realized that his/her mother didn't love nor even like his father, and that she preferred women, resulting in a child's distorted sense of traditional family values.

439 posted on 12/07/2006 9:17:03 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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