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BREAKING NEWS: Two Border Patrol Agents who wounded a drug smuggler given 11 and 12 years prison.
Lou Dobbs / CNN | 10-19-06 | no dems

Posted on 10/19/2006 3:37:27 PM PDT by no dems

Edited on 10/19/2006 4:07:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: B4Ranch; texastoo

The report I heard this morning stated that 3 of the jurists said they were under pressure for a conviction and not told that a hung jury was an option, giving the two officers reason to file for appeal...


621 posted on 10/20/2006 7:41:05 AM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt (You may call me Mr. Truck Driver...)
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To: okie01; All; TommyDale; no dems; AnnaZ; StoneColdGOP; muawiyah; stinkerpot65

Johnny Sutton, US Attorney responsible for this.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/us_attorney/index.html

[snip] Mr. Sutton also serves as the chairman of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee (AGAC) which plays a significant role in determining policies and programs of the Department and in carrying out the national goals set by the President and the Attorney General.

The AGAC consists of 17 members appointed by the Attorney General and represents different judicial circuits, various-sized offices, and expertise. Mr. Sutton also serves on the Border and Immigration Law Enforcement Subcommittee of the AGAC.

US Attorney Johnny SuttonPrior to becoming United States Attorney, Mr. Sutton served as an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, D.C., and as a Policy Coordinator for the Bush-Cheney Transition Team assigned to the Department of Justice.

Mr. Sutton served as the Criminal Justice Policy Director for then-Governor George W. Bush from 1995-2000, advising the Governor on all criminal justice issues, with specific oversight in the areas of criminal law, prison capacity and management, parole operations and legislative initiatives.

Prior to his service in the Governor’s office, Mr. Sutton worked as a criminal trial prosecutor in the Harris County District Attorney’s Office (Houston, Texas) for eight years. As a prosecutor, he was lead trial counsel in over sixty felony cases, including numerous capital murder, aggravated robbery, and sexual assault cases. He is fluent in Spanish, having appeared as a television commentator for the Spanish language network Univision during the Selena homicide trial.


622 posted on 10/20/2006 7:46:45 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: B4Ranch

I haven't read the whole thread yet. Yep, this is a Bush judge appointee along with A. Gonzales.


623 posted on 10/20/2006 8:16:16 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: WatchingInAmazement

You forgot to mention that he is married to a hispanic lady and loves Mexican food.


624 posted on 10/20/2006 8:22:11 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: B4Ranch; gubamyster; SwinneySwitch; DumpsterDiver

I noticed the Smokey Backroom location late last night.


625 posted on 10/20/2006 8:25:48 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Pete-R-Bilt
The report I heard this morning stated that 3 of the jurists said they were under pressure for a conviction and not told that a hung jury was an option, giving the two officers reason to file for appeal...

I've heard that this judge dismissed the charge of the 3 jurors.

626 posted on 10/20/2006 8:29:04 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

So, I take it you're OK with cops not reporting their employment of deadly force, and OK with cops destroying evidence.


627 posted on 10/20/2006 8:34:20 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: texastoo
Are we so stupid to think a drug smuggler would even think about telling the truth?

No, but I'm apparently REALLY stupid to think that cops are expected to tell the truth.

628 posted on 10/20/2006 8:35:56 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

#594 BTTT


629 posted on 10/20/2006 8:41:53 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: NewRomeTacitus
This Administration has conducted this war as an exercise in contractor profit

Is that you, Mr. Dean?

630 posted on 10/20/2006 8:48:51 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: no dems

Damn!


631 posted on 10/20/2006 8:54:13 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!!)
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To: no dems

Damn!


632 posted on 10/20/2006 9:16:19 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
When the supervisor hasn't done his job correctly, he, too, could end up going to jail.

This one ain't over.

633 posted on 10/20/2006 9:38:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cmiller623

I did not say I support the decision...far from it!

You are leaping to conclusions...and that's a sad fact.

I don't know the cast of lawyer characters...I'm not from the area. But what I do know is that law enforcement officials should not be allowed to get away with illegal acts like shooting someone in the back...even if he is a narco trafficker. I am not convinced that the agents are guilty but I wasn't there and others who were are keeping silent...agency climbers perhaps?



634 posted on 10/20/2006 9:50:03 AM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: eleni121
I don't know the cast of lawyer characters...

Johnny Sutton, US Attorney responsible for this.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/us_attorney/index.html

[snip] Mr. Sutton also serves as the chairman of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee (AGAC) which plays a significant role in determining policies and programs of the Department and in carrying out the national goals set by the President and the Attorney General. The AGAC consists of 17 members appointed by the Attorney General and represents different judicial circuits, various-sized offices, and expertise. Mr. Sutton also serves on the Border and Immigration Law Enforcement Subcommittee of the AGAC. US Attorney Johnny SuttonPrior to becoming United States Attorney, Mr. Sutton served as an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, D.C., and as a Policy Coordinator for the Bush-Cheney Transition Team assigned to the Department of Justice. Mr. Sutton served as the Criminal Justice Policy Director for then-Governor George W. Bush from 1995-2000, advising the Governor on all criminal justice issues, with specific oversight in the areas of criminal law, prison capacity and management, parole operations and legislative initiatives. Prior to his service in the Governor’s office, Mr. Sutton worked as a criminal trial prosecutor in the Harris County District Attorney’s Office (Houston, Texas) for eight years. As a prosecutor, he was lead trial counsel in over sixty felony cases, including numerous capital murder, aggravated robbery, and sexual assault cases. He is fluent in Spanish, having appeared as a television commentator for the Spanish language network Univision during the Selena homicide trial.

635 posted on 10/20/2006 9:53:56 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

So what Bush basher!!! Agents who shoot someone and then don't report it are breaking the law!

Tell me truly: Do you want federal or any government level of agents to be given the right to shoot any piece of scum ("piece of dirt" according to Sutton)down there and not have to report back?

Double dare you to respond.


636 posted on 10/20/2006 10:04:28 AM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: eleni121
So what Bush basher!!! Agents who shoot someone and then don't report it are breaking the law! Tell me truly: Do you want federal or any government level of agents to be given the right to shoot any piece of scum ("piece of dirt" according to Sutton)down there and not have to report back? Double dare you to respond.

Boy, you just got the award for flying off half cocked! Posting something from the white house makes me a Bush basher? You're carrying on about crap I never mentioned.

I "double dare" you to kiss my ass.

637 posted on 10/20/2006 10:09:22 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Respond to the issues...I triple dare ya.

Here it is to make it easier:

Should agents have the right to shoot people and not report the incident?

Dimples Dobbs (and some angry kook types here) may think it's OK but most conservatives do not!


638 posted on 10/20/2006 10:15:01 AM PDT by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Good information about the US Attorney; thanks WIA.


639 posted on 10/20/2006 10:17:22 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: eleni121
Should agents have the right to shoot people and not report the incident?

No.

Now what?

And by the way, Ms. "Conservative", you're in the minority here and across the country if you think these agents deserved anything more than disiplinary action as provided by border patrol guidlines. They were doing their job protecting YOU!

So, I took your two dares, what do I get? More of your vitriol?

640 posted on 10/20/2006 10:19:48 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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