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One in Four Smokers Will Get Lung Disease
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Posted on 10/17/2006 1:09:34 PM PDT by trumandogz

TUESDAY, Oct. 17 (HealthDay News) -- A new study finds that at least 1 in every 4 smokers will develop progressive and incurable chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), a much higher risk than previously believed.

COPD is a respiratory disease that results in blocked air flow to the lungs and grows progressively worse.

For this study, published online in the journal Thorax, researchers at Hvidovre Hospital analyzed data on 8,000 men and women, ages 30 to 60. All were monitored for 25 years as part of the Copenhagen City Heart Study.

At the start of the study, all the participants' lungs were healthy and working normally. However, over the course of the 25 years, the lungs of almost all the male non-smokers continued to function normally, compared to 60 percent of men who continued to smoke.

Among women, 90 percent of non-smokers still had healthy lungs at the end of 25 years, compared to 70 percent of smokers.

Overall, 25 percent of the participants developed moderate or severe COPD over the 25 years. Persistent smokers were six times more likely to develop COPD than non-smokers.

During the 25 years, there were 2,900 deaths in the study group. Of those deaths, 109 were directly attributable to COPD, and nearly all those deaths were in people who were active smokers at the start of the study. Only two non-smokers died of COPD.

The study also found a sharp decline in the risk of COPD among people who stopped smoking soon after the start of the study. Over the 25 years, none of these ex-smokers developed severe COPD.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: addiction; buttlist; denial; dontinhale; humanashtrays; nicotine; puff; pufflist; smoke; smoking; tobacco; tobaccoaddicts
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To: CSM

More eroneous assumptions.

I don't recall saying or believing anywhere--especially on this thread--that my flaws and sins are more righteous than smoker's flaws and sins.

So, yet again . . . a bald faced wholesale WRONG assumption was leveled at me.

I suppose smokers think it's great to walk by and spit on someone's newly polished shoe?

No? I didn't think so. Evidently Smokers are quite judgmental about folks spitting on other folks shoes deliberately.

Shrill? I could show shrill. I'm pretty good at shrill. Haven't even been on the same planet as shrill on this thread.

Hypersensitivity seems to go with smoking for a sizeable percentage of smokers. Guess it's fitting. Many folks are hypersensitive allergically to smoke and smokers are hypersensitive to criticism of their smoking. Kind of fits.
In a perverse way, of course.


301 posted on 10/18/2006 5:35:42 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Rakkasan1

engage your sense of humor.


302 posted on 10/18/2006 5:42:57 AM PDT by dmz
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To: 383rr; CSM
Anyway, CSM, who in the hell would want to live forever, and be subjected to this screeching for eternity?

I'll bet even the devil would go insane having to listen to these people constantly.

Here you go!


303 posted on 10/18/2006 5:44:34 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Quix; All
Smoking is a dirty, filthy, offensive, selfish habit. Plain and simple.

Rationalizations about it don't change the basic facts.

And I take offense to that.  Many of us do not find it dirty, filthy, offensive and a selfish habit.  That is just your opinion, yet you continuously want to jam your opinion down our throats.

I bet "you" have some habits that "I" would find offensive! heh!

304 posted on 10/18/2006 5:47:18 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: CSM; Alter Kaker
Since when is it acceptable to take the Lord's name in vein on FR? It is even worse that you are proud of your attitude.

He seems to be a total anti-smoker and a non-Christian as well.  Told me right there just what kind of an idiot he is! Period!

305 posted on 10/18/2006 5:49:30 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Smokers jam their smoke down my lungs.

I think my opinions are a lot less destructive to smokers' health.

Yeah, I think my habit of tweaking at smoking on smoking threads is probably offensive to smokers.

woop woop.


306 posted on 10/18/2006 5:49:41 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: nkycincinnatikid
"But not from drinking carrot juice" Very easily said.... SoOh? Prove it.

I don't understand what you're asking. I was responding to a post that said that 100% of orange juice drinkers die. (obviously - since everybody dies). I responded with "they didn't die from drinking orange juice."

And you now want me to PROVE that people don't die from drinking orange juice? I can't prove a negative. Why don't you show the proof that millions of people have died as a result of drinking orange juice.

There is plenty of proof that people die from cigarette smoking - I've never seen a study showing how orange juice kills.

307 posted on 10/18/2006 5:51:07 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: nkycincinnatikid
Orange juice, carrot juice, tobasco juice, its juice , WHAT EVER

What on earth do you mean?

309 posted on 10/18/2006 5:51:49 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: elkfersupper
The evidence is anecdotal - less smoking, more childhood asthma.

Draw your own conclusions.

The evidence is documented - more smoking, more early deaths.

Draw your own conclusions.

311 posted on 10/18/2006 5:57:25 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: elkfersupper
38.3 years gloriously free of busybody nanny-staters (and federal income tax). I would trade for that in a minute.

38.3 years of grueling hard labor from sun up to sun down. 38.3 years of no electricity, no central heating, no running water, no toilets, no showers, no cars, no movies, no television, no radio, no antibodies, no refrigeration, no canned goods, no air conditioning, no travel beyond 15 miles from your home, no photographs, no department stores, no supermarkets, no fruit or vegetables in the winter, no telephones, only having 50% of your babies make it to age 2, no sewer systems, no police protection, no emergency rooms. Indian attacks, dysentery, smallpox, polio, plague, fleas, lice, - yes it must have been a GREAT life, topped off by dying of old age at 40!

You can have it - I'll take this life, even with all its problems.

312 posted on 10/18/2006 6:07:16 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: metesky

Well, metesky, you just made a damn good point.


313 posted on 10/18/2006 6:09:33 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: patton
Also ain't pretty to watch family farms die due to liberal taxation.

At least the farms didn't choose to do it to themselves, like smokers.

314 posted on 10/18/2006 6:09:36 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: patton

That's the silliest thing I've read today. Considering 99.9% of Americans are born in hospitals.


315 posted on 10/18/2006 6:15:57 AM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: Tokra

The "Marlboro Man," Wayne McLaren, appeared at Philip Morris’ annual shareholders meeting in Richmond, VA, and asked the company to voluntarily limit its advertising.

The Marlboro Man died of LUNG CANCER three months later in 1992.

316 posted on 10/18/2006 6:18:49 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: 383rr; Madame Dufarge
As Dufarge says, "On the porch, in the rocker, shotgun across the knees, puffing on a corncob pipe."


317 posted on 10/18/2006 6:22:00 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ .05¢ a can.)
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To: secret garden
Over 75% of people that die in America are under a doctors care and 80% of Americans die in a hospital or under some form of care.

Stay away from doctors and hospitals and you'll live forever.
/feeble humor

318 posted on 10/18/2006 6:25:54 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ .05¢ a can.)
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To: secret garden
"Single cells bear variable combinations of these NK cell receptors (NKR), presumably resulting from stochastic gene activation/silencing events that take place during their maturation. The diversity of NKR observed in different individuals is in part genetically determined, as distinct KIR haplotypes include variable sets of genes. On the other hand, there is evidence that microbial infections may also influence the NKR repertoire. In this regard, murine cytomegalovirus (MCMV) promotes an expansion of NK cells bearing the Ly49H receptor specific for the m157 viral glycoprotein, that play a crucial role in the immune response to infection."

The point is not that everyone born in hospital has asthma - it is that everyone with asthma was born in hospital.

319 posted on 10/18/2006 6:38:08 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: metesky

"I'd like to live forever just to keep on aggravating the dweebs."

Me too!


320 posted on 10/18/2006 6:40:28 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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