[taxesareforever]

I can literally put my hands on the measurements, on the pictures, on the peer reviewed reports by scientists. Yes, I can literally put my hands on evidence of the Big bang, just as I can literally put my hands on the evidence for the theory of evolution

And I can put my hand on the Bible and know that the truth of creation is in it. By the way, could you mail me some of that Big Bang material? I'd like to compare it to what is in my septic tank.

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"And I can put my hand on the Bible and know that the truth of creation is in it.

Sorry but that doesn't satisfy your requirement of direct observation. Unless you are claiming that the Bible you are touching *is* the creator.

"By the way, could you mail me some of that Big Bang material? I'd like to compare it to what is in my septic tank.

I suspect you wouldn't understand much of it (and no I do not claim to understand all of it).