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Free Republic ^ | 22 September 2006 | Vanity

Posted on 09/22/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: Quix; betty boop

There is no crow to be had.

Some Red Herring perhaps, but no crow.


321 posted on 09/24/2006 4:02:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: b_sharp

My faith in God

IS SPECIAL

BECAUSE

of Whom the faith is invested IN.

Everyone has faith. Sometimes it's in sky hooks; so called random chance plus time; pontificating old liberal Marxist coots in universities . . . seat belts . . .

God gave everyone a measure of faith. It's really quite impossible to live without it.


322 posted on 09/24/2006 4:04:46 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: SoldierDad

Dogma: a religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without evidence."

Hmmmmm. Sounds like science to me.
= = = =

Sadly, far too huge a LOT of science. LOL.


323 posted on 09/24/2006 4:06:03 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
God gave everyone a measure of faith. It's really quite impossible to live without it.

These discussions are NOT about God. They are about science.

I believe that God weeps everytime someone takes His words and uses them to forward willful ignorance.

324 posted on 09/24/2006 4:06:35 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: freedumb2003

Who in the world would want you influencing educational policy?
= = = =

Parents who've proven they were well reared and who could demonstrate good rearing practices of their own kids.


325 posted on 09/24/2006 4:08:05 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: SoldierDad
Hmmmmm. Sounds like science to me.

SoldierDad, did you serve or does your kid serve? Either way, I think your faith in aeronautics should be nearly equal to your faith in God.

Of are you depending on angels to hold C-17's aloft? And dismissing fuel calculations as simple superstition?

IOW: I don't think you REALLY believe what you just posted.

326 posted on 09/24/2006 4:10:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: Quix
Parents who've proven they were well reared and who could demonstrate good rearing practices of their own kids

That want their children to be brought up as scientifically ignorant. \

327 posted on 09/24/2006 4:10:45 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: PatrickHenry

Your thread has prompted me to adopt a new tagline...


328 posted on 09/24/2006 4:11:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (What man still doesn't know about God's creation is still enough to fill a universe...)
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To: b_sharp

By reducing the Christian (or other religion's) concept of 'faith' to be equivalent with the 'faith' we have that our car will start in the morning is to rob it of all significance in the hearts and minds of spiritually centred people.
= = = =

Hogwash.

But perhaps avoidance or routine conscious ignorance of real Christian faith allows a certain amount of hogwash in one's thinking about it.

I say again . . . the specialness of Christian faith is THE ONE it's invested in. That makes all the difference. And that difference is more than sufficient for any measure or criteria seeking difference as meaningful or worth bothering about.

Life is life. Life in Christ--Resurrection Life is special . . . infinitely special . . . because of THE ONE it's IN.

Otherwise it's just life.

But, hey, even mundane faith is a lot better than the horror of even attempting to live life without faith--as impossible as that would be to go very far with.


329 posted on 09/24/2006 4:12:06 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: tomzz
The question asks only whether or not the other side in a scientific controversy ...

Objection! referring to "facts" not in evidence!

330 posted on 09/24/2006 4:12:28 PM PDT by Virginia-American (What do you call an honest creationist? An evolutionist.)
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To: b_sharp

and aren't aware of it.
= = = =

More ASSumptions about me! LOL

Never noticed you running around loose inside my psyche, heart, spirit. Fact is, I don't think you've ever been close to any such geography. LOL.

ASSUMING you have can be hazardous.


331 posted on 09/24/2006 4:13:59 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: b_sharp

Must the ASSUMPTIONS about me

always

be as flawed as the ones about evolution seem to be?

At least they're consistent in their flawedness.


332 posted on 09/24/2006 4:14:49 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: tomzz
... the opportunity to be heard by our young people in the schools which those young people's parents, not the self-appointed "experts', pay for....

The experts "pay" every time their field of study is misrepresented. Either teach biology, which by necessity includes the ToE, or don't teach it at all. Don't lie about the contents of science.

Neither the school boards nor the public has the authority or the competence to decide what is and isn't science. They have the authority to demand or forbid teaching it, but that's all.

333 posted on 09/24/2006 4:15:43 PM PDT by Virginia-American (What do you call an honest creationist? An evolutionist.)
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To: freedumb2003

Who in the world would want you influencing educational policy?
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As I understood it from my students . . . more than 6,000 Chinese parents, for starters.


334 posted on 09/24/2006 4:16:19 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: freedumb2003

The broadside was that the quote was false.

It's been demonstrated to not be false.

Sounds like an occasion for crow, to me.


335 posted on 09/24/2006 4:17:18 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: freedumb2003

imho,

evolution is the willful ignorance.

But, to the best of my quick recollection, I didn't raise the issue of faith IN GOD, first.


336 posted on 09/24/2006 4:18:26 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
As I understood it from my students . . . more than 6,000 Chinese parents, for starters.

Well I can't very well argue with 6,000 Chinese parents, can I?

I mean, since they understand the difference between Faith and Science and all, right?

337 posted on 09/24/2006 4:18:28 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: freedumb2003

That want their children to be brought up as scientifically ignorant. \
= = = =

Not at all.

Though I did catch the slight of hand--

defining

scientifically ignorant as whatever disagrees with you on the topic! LOL.

Ain't THAT scientific! LOL.


338 posted on 09/24/2006 4:20:17 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: freedumb2003

Well I can't very well argue with 6,000 Chinese parents, can I?
= = = =

Actually, I haven't seen a lot of

well argued anything on the side of evolution for maybe a decade or two . . . or longer.

Yeah, the Chinese parents were consistently pretty sharp folks. Easy to love, easy to respect.


339 posted on 09/24/2006 4:22:53 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
imho, evolution is the willful ignorance.

But, again, you can't put anything up against it except your limited opinion. There is no alternate scientific theory, there is no "willful ignorance."

You realize "this is my opinion" is of extremely limited value, right? If you teach "1+1=3" and say "of course, this is MY opinion" that is still wrong (and harmful).

But, to the best of my quick recollection, I didn't raise the issue of faith IN GOD, first.

That is because there is no dichotomy between belief "in God" and belief in things "of God."

340 posted on 09/24/2006 4:23:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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