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Lies our drug warriors told us
Reno News and Review ^ | August 24th, 2006 | Dennis Myers

Posted on 08/25/2006 6:26:19 AM PDT by cryptical

The reporters made their way through the dim lights and small huts of Virginia City's Chinatown. In the huts, one of the reporters later wrote, "A lamp sits on the bed, the length of the long pipe-stem from the smoker's mouth; he puts a pellet of opium on the end of a wire, sets it on fire, and plasters it into the pipe much as a Christian would fill a hole with putty; then he applies the bowl to the lamp and proceeds to smoke--and the stewing and frying of the drug and the gurgling of the juices in the stem would well nigh turn the stomach of a statue. John likes it, though; it soothes him, he takes about two dozen whiffs, and then rolls over to dream."

The reporter, Mark Twain, whose Victorian sensibilities made him uncomfortable when faced with the scenes in Chinatown, nevertheless was one reporter who did not use his coverage of opium use to demonize the Chinese. Others were less principled. They set the pattern of much of the news coverage of drug use that followed in the next century and a half.

The Comstock journalists produced racist and inaccurate news coverage that relied on uninformed sources (law enforcement instead of physicians), inflamed the people of the town, and produced the nation's first anti-drug law, an ordinance banning opium smoking within Virginia City, enacted on Sept. 12, 1876. The local politicians, discovering that fear of drugs and minorities sold, were just as irresponsible, blaming everything from poor sanitation to child molestation on Chinese drug "fiends." When the local prohibition ordinance failed, they pushed for a statewide law which failed (and, of course, would be followed by national laws that failed).

The entire ineffectual template of the drug war with which we live today was established there in Virginia City--journalists who gave short shrift to science and health-care professionals in favor of treating politicians and law enforcers as drug experts in lurid and exploitive news coverage; politicians who exploited legitimate concern to promote race hatred and reelection; law enforcers who confused cause with effect and exploited public anxiety to promote punitive laws; and all three who treated prohibition as a solution: "Let severe measures be adopted and the sale of the drug will soon be suppressed!" observed a Nye County newspaper. The nation has been chasing that siren's song ever since.

A century later, Reno physician Wesley Hall was the president-elect of the American Medical Association. On April 2, 1970, he used the forum provided by his new stature to announce that in June, the AMA would release a study showing that marijuana deadened the sex drive and caused birth defects. The statement caused a flap, but no such study was ever released. A few weeks later, Hall claimed he had been misquoted but also claimed that he had not bothered to correct the record because "it does some good." By then, correcting the record did no good--Hall's comments kept getting cited and quoted until experience and the passing years showed their falsity.

Over the course of the war on drugs that began in Virginia City and accelerated decade by decade, such lying became an indispensable weapon of that war. The lies sometimes took the form of outright falsehoods. At other times, they took the form of letting errors stand uncorrected or leaving out essential information. Drug warriors--whether journalists, politicians, police or public employees--need lies because the drug war can't be sustained without them. Lies are the foundation of the drug war, and the five listed here are the tip of the iceberg. There are many, many more, and they are relevant to a marijuana measure that will appear on this year's Nevada ballot.

1. Gateway drugs In the early 20th century, Dr. Charles Towns was a leading public figure and drug "expert," operator of the Towns Hospital in New York. He propounded a theory that would have a long life--that some drugs "lead" to harder drugs. "The tobacco user is in the wrong," he wrote. "It undermines his nervous strength. It blunts the edge of his mind. It gives him 'off-days,' when he doesn't feel up to his work. It always precedes alcoholism and drug addiction. I've never had a drug case or an alcoholic case (excepting a few women) that didn't have a history of excessive smoking. Inhaling tobacco is just as injurious as moderate opium smoking."

The gateway theory evolved until baby boomers raised in the 1950s on "marijuana leads to harder stuff" learned its falsity from personal experience in the 1960s. If that experience and the findings of science were not enough, there was practical evidence that some drugs actually functioned as barrier drugs, not gateway drugs. Whenever mild drugs were removed as a barrier, harder drugs came into use. In 1910, Congress received data showing that during a period of alcohol prohibition in New England, morphine use jumped by 150 percent. In 1968, a Johnson administration crackdown on marijuana in Vietnam reduced supply and provoked an upsurge in heroin use. In 1969 in California, a six-day Nixon administration crackdown on the Mexican border dried up marijuana supplies and filled heath-care facilities with a flood of heroin cases. California physician David Smith told Newsweek, "The government line is that the use of marijuana leads to more dangerous drugs. The fact is that the lack of marijuana leads to more dangerous drugs."

The gateway theory went into decline after such experiences but always made a comeback because drug war dogma requires it. Today it is back, alive and well.

And as it turned out, "Doctor" Towns was a quack--a failed insurance salesman who was not a physician and peddled a bogus "cure" for drug addiction.

2. Marijuana’s not medicine. Today, we're accustomed to medical experts like Washoe County District Attorney Richard Gammick denying that marijuana is medicine (Gammick: "I didn't support medical marijuana because it doesn't exist."), but in 1937, it was a novel argument, since marijuana was universally acknowledged as a beneficial medicine. It was listed in the American Medical Association's Pharmacopeia (list of approved medications) and remained there even after being made illegal until federal officials brought pressure on the AMA. (It is still in the British Pharmacopeia.)

What may have been the first time this lie was told was a key moment in the drug wars. Congress was considering legislation that year to outlaw non-medicinal marijuana at the behest of the lumber and liquor lobbies and fueled by newspaper hysteria over marijuana. By continuing to protect physicians' use of the drug, Congress recognized its medical value.

Though there was an exception in the bill for physicians, the medical community was still concerned about the restrictions. There was apparently an effort to slip the ban through Congress quietly, but AMA lobbyist William C. Woodward found out about a House Ways and Means Committee hearing on the bill and showed up to demand actual evidence of the danger of the drug instead of the anecdotal newspaper horror stories to which the committee had been listening: "It has surprised me, however, that the facts on which these statements have been based have not been brought before this committee by competent primary evidence. We are referred to newspaper publications concerning the prevalence of marijuana addiction. We are told that the use of marijuana causes crime. But yet no one has been produced from the Bureau of Prisons to show the number of prisoners who have been found addicted to the marijuana habit. An informed inquiry shows that the Bureau of Prisons has no evidence on that point. You have been told that school children are great users of marijuana cigarettes. No one has been summoned from the Children's Bureau to show the nature and extent of the habit among children."

The committee members tore into Woodward spitefully, giving him the kind of grilling they did not give to drug warriors.

One member told Woodward, "We know that it is a habit that is spreading, particularly among youngsters. ... The number of victims is increasing each year." Woodward replied, "There is no evidence of that." He kept insisting on evidence instead of hearsay.

The committee ended Woodward's testimony without thanking him or even formally ending his testimony, brusquely calling the next witness.

One of those present at that hearing was U.S. Rep. Carl Vinson of Georgia. When the marijuana ban reached the House floor on June 10, 1937, he was the floor manager. To give some idea of the care with which the bill was enacted and the depth of knowledge from which lawmakers were working, there was this exchange:

U.S. Rep. Bertrand Snell of New York: "What is the bill?"

U.S. Rep. Sam Rayburn of Texas: "It has something to do with something that is called marijuana. I believe it is a narcotic of some kind."

Vinson: "Marijuana is the same as hashish."

Snell: "Mr. Speaker, I am not going to object, but I think it is wrong to consider legislation of this character at this time of night."

U.S. drug czar John Walters came to Nevada to campaign against a medical marijuana measure and told a lurid tale of highly potent marijuana. Photo By D. Brian Burghart

Then came a question that led to the lie whose consequences are still with us. Snell asked, "Mr. Speaker, does the American Medical Association support this bill?"

The response fell to Vinson. A truthful answer might well derail the bill. Future chief justice of the United States Vinson stood and lied: "Their Doctor Wentworth [sic] came down here. They support this bill one hundred percent."

The bill was approved.

3. Crack babies. The report went on the air at 5:34:50 p.m. on Sept. 11, 1985, with an on-screen headline of "Cocaine and pregnant mothers." In 1 minute and 50 seconds, Susan Spencer of CBS ignited an inflammatory national myth--the crack baby. Footage of a screaming and trembling baby going through withdrawal after supposedly being born to a mother who used cocaine was backed by interviews with physicians Ira Chasnoff and Sidney Schnoll. Chasnoff had just published a study in the New England Journal of Medicine that had caught Spencer's eye and prompted the report. Spencer ended the report with the lines, "The message is clear. If you are pregnant and using cocaine, stop."

University of Michigan scholars Richard Campbell and Jimmie Reeves have tracked the events which followed. As other reporters and media chased the story, it evolved. Spencer's report was a health warning. By the time her CBS colleague Terry Drinkwater and others recycled the story, it was an attack on the mothers (Washington Post: "The Worst Threat Is Mom Herself"). As the firestorm built, politicians and others got involved, and the babies themselves were demonized. A judge called them "tomorrow's delinquents," and Democratic U.S. Rep. George Miller of California said, "We are going to have these children, who are the most expensive babies ever born in America, are going to overwhelm every social service delivery system that they come in contact with throughout the rest of their lives." Boston University President John Silber suggested the babies were soulless--"crack babies who won't ever achieve the intellectual development to have consciousness of God."

The drumbeat against the children became so fierce that a commentary in the Journal of the American Medical Association asked, "Why is there today such an urgency to label prenatally cocaine-exposed children as irremediably damaged?" And Emory University's Dr. Claire Coles said of the "crack baby" label, "If a child comes to kindergarten with that label, they're dead. They are very likely to fulfill the worst prophecies."

Hospitals started threatening to turn mothers over to police; prosecutors started charging mothers with child abuse. (The Nevada Legislature rejected a statute permitting such prosecutions, and when the Washoe sheriff tried to charge a mother anyway, the Nevada Supreme Court slapped it down.) One case--Ferguson v. City of Charleston--made its way all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, which held that hospitals had to stop testing for drugs without patient consent. A study in the New England Journal of Medicine indicated that the drug habits of white women were more likely to be overlooked by physicians or hospitals, while African Americans were reported to police.

And it was all built on a pile of sand.

Spencer, like most reporters, did not know how to read a scientific study, and the Chasnoff study was flawed. The study involved just 23 women, and its author himself called it inadequate.

Worse, according to former Wall Street Journal reporter Dan Baum, who wrote an influential account of the drug war, physicians noticed something about video reports by Spencer and others that ordinary viewers--and the reporters themselves--missed. The trembling babies were exhibiting behavior that is not produced by cocaine. Being withdrawn from coke produces sleep, not the trembling and screaming shown in the sensational reports. Baum wrote, "It dawned on [Dr. Claire] Coles that the TV crews were either mixed up or lying. They were filming infants suffering heroin withdrawal and calling them 'cocaine babies.' "

Moreover, the physicians also felt that drugs were not the cause of the problems being attributed to the babies. Lack of nutrition and health care during pregnancy were. A Florida report noted, "In the end, it is safer for the baby to be born to a drug-using, anemic, or diabetic mother who visits the doctor throughout her pregnancy than to be born to a normal woman who does not."

The controversy arose at a time when both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and President Reagan had sliced apart the "safety net" that had long existed for poor families. By 1985, prenatal care and nutrition were less accessible. Federal deregulation of the insurance industry had cut low-income families loose from health insurance. Federally funded medical care had been slashed. While journalism had raced off after the mock cause of unhealthy babies, the real causes had received far less press scrutiny.

It was a case study of journalism taking a complex story and simplifying it into inflammatory and irresponsible coverage that made the problem worse. It is now pretty clear to experts and insiders what happened. But the damage is done. Today, there are 103,000 hits on Google for crack baby and 107,000 for crack babies.

4. Instant addiction. The March 17, 1986, issue of Newsweek hit the newsstands on March 10. Newsweek has long served as the unofficial house organ of the drug war. That alliance has often suspended the critical faculties of its staff members. Never was that failing more dangerous than in that 1986 issue with its "Kids and Cocaine" cover story. Inside was an interview with Arnold Washton, operator of a drug hotline who was known for hyperbole--he had once told NBC that crack was a form of Russian roulette. In the Newsweek article he said, "There is no such thing as recreational use of crack. It is almost instantaneous addiction."

Newsweek did not bother checking the accuracy of the incendiary claim before publishing it. Instead, acting as stenographers instead of journalists, the magazine's editors printed it without a competing viewpoint.

The assertion shot through newsrooms around the nation with the speed of sound, and those newsrooms passed it along like carriers of a disease. And it was untrue. Dr. Herbert Kleber, perhaps the leading cocaine expert in the United States has said, "No drug is instantly addictive."

The claim was as potent in its effect as crack. Laws, fueled by the frenzy created by "instantly addicting" crack, were enacted. One of them, the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986, imposed lower penalties on powder cocaine (used mostly by whites) than on crack cocaine (used mostly by African Americans). In practice, whites tended to be diverted into treatment more than blacks. All four members of Congress from Nevada voted for the bill.

There were those who tried to brake the inflammatory news coverage. The Washington Journalism Review eventually ran a cover story quoting Peter Jennings saying that using crack "even once can make a person crave cocaine as long as they live." Existing research, the Review said, disproves that statement. But the piece didn't appear until 1990. The Columbia Journalism Review did not directly challenge the claim but did urge greater skepticism toward drug war claims.

It did little good. The belief in the instantly addicting qualities of cocaine has entered popular culture. "The crack cocaine of ..." joined "If we can put a man on the moon ..." as an indispensable phrase. There are 47,800 Google hits for it--"the crack cocaine of junk food," "the crack cocaine of gambling addiction," "the crack cocaine of sexaholics," and so on.

5. Marijuana’s rising potency That distinguished medical expert, Washoe County District Attorney Richard Gammick, said on Sam Shad's television program, "This is not the marijuana that people used to roll and do a little doobie back at Haight-Ashbury and some of the other things that went on back 30, 40 years ago. This is 10 times stronger in THC [tetrahydrocannabinol] content."

This has become one of the most common new myths about marijuana. White House drug czar John Walters loves it and used it when he came to Reno and Las Vegas to campaign against a 2002 marijuana ballot measure. "What many people don't understand is that this is not your father's marijuana," he told the Washington Post in a story about the Nevada initiative. "What we're seeing now is much more potent." In fact, no reliable evidence substantiates Gammick's 10-times-stronger claim, much less Walters' 30-times-stronger claim.

What they leave out of their sales pitch are these little nuggets of information:

• The claims of higher potency are based on a 1960s study that used unusually low-potency marijuana for testing purposes.

• The Bush administration itself will not substantiate the Walters/Gammick-style claims about potency. The federal Potency Monitoring Project reports negligible fluctuations in potency over the years. The U.S. Department of Justice's "National Drug Threat Assessment" for 2005 said that higher potency marijuana is not marketable because it makes tokers sick--"more intense--and often unpleasant--effects of the drug leading them to seek medical intervention."

• Potency is a so-what issue--when marijuana is more potent, tokers smoke less.

Walters managed to combine two of the lies we listed here into a single sentence when, on one occasion, he talked about border smuggling of pot that he claimed was highly potent: "Canada is exporting to us the crack of marijuana." It's the kind of false statement that would have fit right into 1870s Virginia City.


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To: Mojave
Your first post to me.

261 posted on 08/27/2006 8:39:18 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: pageonetoo
You're a pompous ass, who actually thinks somebody cares...

zzzzzzz

262 posted on 08/27/2006 8:41:26 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Here's a proposal. Take your accusation to the mods. If your accusation is true, my account is banned. If your accusation is false, you terminate your account.

The mods wouldn't necessarily know if you have two accounts. You could easily be using two different computers and two different service providers. When you admit that you have two screen names, "Roscoe" and "Mojave", you terminate your account. Is it a deal? 

263 posted on 08/27/2006 11:53:24 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Zon

You folded. No surprise there.


264 posted on 08/27/2006 12:54:58 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

I didn't fold. You made an offer for a deal and I made a modified offer back to you. Here is the deal I'm offering: When you admit that you have two screen names, "Roscoe" and "Mojave", you terminate your account and never post to FreeRepublic again. Is it a deal?


265 posted on 08/27/2006 1:17:24 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: TKDietz

"I think people are for the most part well intentioned when they try to scare kids away from drugs through exaggerations and even 'little white lies.'"

Interesting post from the front lines.

This method of white lies is the way (IMHO) that most people have been parented for a long time. A glance at some of the children's literature from the 18th and 19th century will show that it is rife with all sorts of stuff meant to scare kids away from bad stuff in life. It's well-intentioned, no doubt, but some of it (like the children's story about the boy who ate too much sugar and turned into syrup) looks more than just a bit ridiculous today.

The dissemination of knowledge really started with public schools, where the kids would find out about all sorts of things from their schoolmates. That's really when kids started checking up on what their parents were telling them. Of course, I'm sure no one on FR ever did this in school. ;-)


266 posted on 08/27/2006 2:16:59 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: TChris

(Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)


Your very own tagline tells you all there is to know about the war on some drugs.


267 posted on 08/27/2006 2:58:54 PM PDT by dcwusmc (The government is supposed to fit the Constitution, NOT the Constitution fit the government!)
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To: PaxMacian
Addiction to recreational drugs is a chemical and psychological issue both since extended use of drugs can change your brain chemistry.

Best thing to do is to never get started and to be smart enough to stay away from recreational users anyway.

The word I most associate with recreational users is "DEPENDENTS".
268 posted on 08/27/2006 3:49:54 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sean327
But once again I will defend my family from the stuff.
You had him arrested...I came home one day and caught my oldest son and some friends in my back yard hitting a bong, they all went to jail that day.
(arrested for simply smoking pot? purportedly informed posters have proclaimed profusely that such things never happen and here you are blowing their argument out of the water...many thanks)
...which put him in the jail system which is notoriously known to be injurious to young offenders (think prison bitch) and you claim you were defending your son? I thought defending someone usually means protecting them from harm. (my bad...you did put...from the stuff...as a qualifier)
Well, congrats to him for coming out decent even after having an a$$hole for a father.

That's JMO so you can get pi$$ed if you want! I don't really care. I'd renounce you if you were my father! To me your actions were reprehensible. Families usually find other ways to resolve such issues than turning their own members in to the police.
However, a peace pipe if you will, with indoctrination like the DARE program I can understand the "stool pigeon" mentality and the associated role you must've readily accepted.

269 posted on 08/27/2006 3:49:58 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: PaxMacian
"GOD MADE HERB!"

GOD MADE A CLIFFS AS WELL, BUT THE SMART ONES DON'T TRY TO JUMP OFF OF THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS.

270 posted on 08/27/2006 3:52:10 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sean327
I don't give a damn if people want to do drugs, just keep the crap away from my kids.
Your 19 year old son isn't, and wasn't "a kid". He was an adult! You simply rode roughshod on him!
And keeping your kids away from "the crap" isn't society's responsibility...IT'S YOURS! Handle it!
Is that such a hard concept for you to comprehend?
You seem to have trouble grasping some concepts yourself.
My philosophy on this is do what ever you want, as long as your actions don't affect my family.
And when a member of your own family's actions effect your family...arrest them.
You're a piece of work! Here's to your retirement. You'll fit right in as a teacher. You're already inculcated so the replication process should be much simpler.
271 posted on 08/27/2006 4:04:44 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36; sean327

...which put him in the jail system which is notoriously known to be injurious to young offenders (think prison bitch) and you claim you were defending your son?

Having sent his own son to prison the young children in the neighborhood when asking their responsible parents about Sean327 the parents' response was probably something like: "stay away from Mr.Sean327. He's one of the bad people."

272 posted on 08/27/2006 5:42:14 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: mugs99
Well I went to the website and I had a little trouble finding anything giving drug addiction statistics for the years you cite. Can you tell me specifically what URL you got those numbers from?
273 posted on 08/27/2006 5:48:51 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: dogbyte12

So we embellish, and we lose the trust of the kids when we tell them what long term heroin, ecstacy use can do to them because they know already that we lie.

I assume you are not one of the "we" that tells those lies. A kindly word of wisdom/advice. When you use the word "we" -- it dilutes the differentiation you're trying to make clear in your argument.  The key is to identify those that lie and those that don't so as to drive a wedge to separate them and their agendas.

274 posted on 08/27/2006 5:51:52 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: A CA Guy

As a human being I am dependant on water for survival.
Does that make me an addict?
Chocolate changes the chemistry in the brain,
as does sex, exercise... The chemistry of herb
works by being akin to chemistry our own body makes.
What marvelous beauty of design to place a mirror of our
mind's chemistry in the flower of a plant which contains
within its seed the most complete and absorbable
combination of amino acids on the face of Earth.
Because they do not know God they do not see his presence.
I will not bow to any godless psych. in their heretical attempts
to demonize any substance nor shall I deny the existence
of free will as they have with the concoction of addiction.
I will fight the newspeak of this godless heretical oligarchy and all blind enough not to see through it with the word of God until there is peace.


275 posted on 08/27/2006 5:53:30 PM PDT by PaxMacian (Gen. 1:29)
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To: A CA Guy

I hear that people jump off cliffs everyday in Hawaii.
That has to be dangerous, maybe we ought to make it illegal.
Get a grip and read the next line, he also saw that it was good.
You just don't have the eyes to see nor the ears to hear.


276 posted on 08/27/2006 5:58:53 PM PDT by PaxMacian (Gen. 1:29)
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To: PaxMacian
Water and conventional food are not like the dangerous recreational drugs. Most living in the real world don't have to think that hard to figure that out.

Where they cliff dive there is a safe place to land with water or a few might try to parachute off to safety, but there is no such safety net with recreational drugs and talking about it like a sacrament only gets kids addicted which I think is fairly Satanic.
277 posted on 08/27/2006 6:03:38 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: pageonetoo
I don't know if you are a man or woman, but would you think it OK for the mother of your child to smoke marijuana while pregnant? Your answer either way will say a lot to those of us not addled by marijuana in our systems.
278 posted on 08/27/2006 7:38:28 PM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: Boiler Plate
Can you tell me specifically what URL you got those numbers from?

Can you tell me specifically which post of mine you're referring to?
.
279 posted on 08/27/2006 7:45:45 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: AmericaUnite
Your answer either way will say a lot to those of us not addled by marijuana in our systems.

I am addled? Look at your post, and get back to me!

280 posted on 08/27/2006 7:51:45 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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