[Ichneumon]

Then we're back to square one and God.

No we're not, that only raises even more questions than it "answers" (and it doesn't even really answer any of the original questions, it just substitutes "*poof*, it's magic" for an actual explanation). It's not an explanation, it's hand-waving.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

"Then we're back to square one and God."

No we're not, that only raises even more questions than it "answers" (and it doesn't even really answer any of the original questions, it just substitutes "*poof*, it's magic" for an actual explanation). It's not an explanation, it's hand-waving.

No. I could quite accept a natural explanation for the universe that begins in an infinite past with infinite energy to explain continued existence. Without both infinities all energy dissipated an infinite time ago or it came ex nihilo. Since the universe as we see it does not have both qualities, I conclude it must have come from a source that does. Absent a more concrete name, I choose to call it God. No magic. I infer its existence outside the universe from pure facts as we know them. And I demonstrated that this theory does not advance one millimeter in explaining it.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Should have noticed and addressed both of you...

"Then we're back to square one and God."

No we're not, that only raises even more questions than it "answers" (and it doesn't even really answer any of the original questions, it just substitutes "*poof*, it's magic" for an actual explanation). It's not an explanation, it's hand-waving.

No. I could quite accept a natural explanation for the universe that begins in an infinite past with infinite energy to explain continued existence. Without both infinities all energy dissipated an infinite time ago or it came ex nihilo. Since the universe as we see it does not have both qualities, I conclude it must have come from a source that does. Absent a more concrete name, I choose to call it God. No magic. I infer its existence outside the universe from pure facts as we know them. And I demonstrated that this theory does not advance one millimeter in explaining it.