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To: Jeff Gordon
It is fine to teach theories that do not support evolution as long as those theories are scientifically based. Mystical theories against eveolution have no place in the sceince class room.

Nobody is talking about teaching mythology in science classes. What people ARE talking about is Intelligent Design, which is clearly a testable scientific hypothesis and, in many instances, all anybody has wanted to do was insert one page or a sticker in highschool biology books noting that there was a controversy involving evolution, and that about half the American populace remains unconvinced of it which is true.

EVEN THAT much of a request is seen as an overwhelming threat by the evos and they go running off to the ACLU (Anti-American Commie Libertine Union) and their little crooked judges with lawsuits at the least hint of somebody acting as if there were any question on the subject.

188 posted on 07/27/2006 6:12:02 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: tomzz

How is ID testable.


192 posted on 07/27/2006 6:17:55 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (There is no tagline)
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To: tomzz
at the least hint of somebody acting as if there were any question on the subject.

In evolutionary science, there is no controversy--or at least not that kind. They fight like cats and dogs over the smallest details, but ID does not get in the door.

Why?

The controversy that we are begged to teach--"Teach the Controversy!" (oh, pretty please, just a camel's nose sticker) is a product of a PR machine designed to force Christian dogma back into science classes. And, I suspect, in such a way as to not be critically evaluated, which is what science does best. Critical evaluation is the last thing you really want.

195 posted on 07/27/2006 6:20:41 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: tomzz

"What people ARE talking about is Intelligent Design, which is clearly a testable scientific hypothesis."

Not it isn't, Ted.


197 posted on 07/27/2006 6:22:05 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: tomzz
Well, Ted, name one test that can be done on ID. And you are the one who used the term "hypothesis." Evolution is a THEORY. Big difference.

And I hope you are ready to put stickers in physics books noting that Gravity is a theory and quite conreversial (and it is within science circles).

204 posted on 07/27/2006 6:26:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: tomzz
...What people ARE talking about is Intelligent Design, which is clearly a testable scientific hypothesis ...

Please elaborate.

Consider: a geneticist finds the same genetic markers in the genome of pigs and cows. Using the ToE, he postulates that they will also be found in the gonomes of giraffes, hippos, deer and whales, among others. Testing proves him right.

Why isn't the ID-ist forced to say "I dunno where else the genetic markers will be found, it's whereever the designer put them", ie forced to admit thet he has no theory to test?

213 posted on 07/27/2006 6:30:15 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: tomzz
What people ARE talking about is Intelligent Design, which is clearly a testable scientific hypothesis

Show me a clearly testable scientific hypothesis for Intelligent Design. Just one. Any one.

Show that is the hypothesis is testable by outlining the tests.

If you can do this, you will have my 100% support.

218 posted on 07/27/2006 6:31:42 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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To: tomzz

So, are you going to tell us how ID is testable?

Or should I cue the crickets?


666 posted on 07/28/2006 12:53:30 AM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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