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To: Seamoth
That is a nice little practiced phrase that has worked for you in the past but here is the a quote from Mein Kampf (Hitler's autobiography/philosophy for those in Rio Linda)

"Everyone who believes in the higher evolution of living organisms must admit that every manifestation on the vital urge and struggle to live must have had a definite beginning in time and that one subject alone must have manifested it for the first time. It was then repeated again and again/ and the practice of it spread over widening area, until finally it passed into the subconscious of every member of the species, where it manifested itself as "instinct"."
Ann Coulter's brilliant book is the quotation.

Hitler believed that if he could rid the world of the rats of the species he could regain the Super Aryan race. This gave him justification by "science" to kill all the lower races.

So nice try. Where were those transitional species fossils that we have been looking for?
You guys certainly have more faith that I have in the unknown and unsubstantiated.
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1,223 posted on 07/29/2006 12:50:13 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: bray
The full quote:
"... A nation that could content itself with external reforms would not have the slightest chance of success in the general struggle for life among the nations of the world. A movement that would confine its mission to such adjustments, which are certainly right and equitable, would effect no far-reaching or profound reform in the existing order. The whole effect of such measures would be limited to externals. They would not furnish the nation with that moral armament which alone will enable it effectively to overcome the weaknesses from which we are suffering today.

In order to elucidate this point of view it may be worth while to glance once again at the real origins and causes of the cultural evolution of mankind.

The first step which visibly brought mankind away from the animal world was that which led to the first invention. The invention itself owes its origin to the ruses and stratagems which man employed to assist him in the struggle with other creatures for his existence and often to provide him with the only means he could adopt to achieve success in the struggle. Those first very crude inventions cannot be attributed to the individual; for the subsequent observer, that is to say the modern observer, recognizes them only as collective phenomena. Certain tricks and skilful tactics which can be observed in use among the animals strike the eye of the observer as established facts which may be seen everywhere; and man is no longer in a position to discover or explain their primary cause and so he contents himself with calling such phenomena 'instinctive.'

In our case this term has no meaning. Because everyone who believes in the higher evolution of living organisms must admit that every manifestation of the vital urge and struggle to live must have had a definite beginning in time and that one subject alone must have manifested it for the first time. It was then repeated again and again; and the practice of it spread over a widening area, until finally it passed into the subconscience of every member of the species, where it manifested itself as 'instinct.'

This is more easily understood and more easy to believe in the case of man. His first skilled tactics in the struggle with the rest of the animals undoubtedly originated in his management of creatures which possessed special capabilities.

There can be no doubt that personality was then the sole factor in all decisions and achievements, which were afterwards taken over by the whole of humanity as a matter of course. An exact exemplification of this may be found in those fundamental military principles which have now become the basis of all strategy in war. Originally they sprang from the brain of a single individual and in the course of many years, maybe even thousands of years, they were accepted all round as a matter of course and this gained universal validity. ...
Hmmm ...
"moral armament", "cultural evolution", "ruses and stratagems", "sprang from the brain", "accepted all round" .. yep that's evolution all right.

Stay away from Creationist websites, They'll rot your brain.
(That goes double for Ms. Coulter)

1,242 posted on 07/29/2006 2:06:14 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: bray
Where were those transitional species fossils that we have been looking for?

See post #238, above.

1,244 posted on 07/29/2006 2:29:17 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: bray

See #636.


1,245 posted on 07/29/2006 2:45:03 PM PDT by ml1954
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To: bray
Where were those transitional species fossils that we have been looking for?

More? OK.

Cute little guy, isn't he? (I must confess I am a bit fonder of the Taung baby though. I'll post that fossil on another occasion.)

Note the position of H. ergaster in the chart below.



Fossil: KNM-WT 15000

Site: Nariokotome, West Turkana, Kenya (1)

Discovered By: K. Kimeu, 1984 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.6 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7, 10), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Male (based on pelvis, browridge) (1, 8, 9)

Cranial Capacity: 880 (909 as adult) cc (1)

Information: Most complete early hominid skeleton (80 bones and skull) (1, 8)

Interpretation: Hairless and dark pigmented body (based on environment, limb proportions) (7, 8, 9). Juvenile (9-12 based on 2nd molar eruption and unfused growth plates) (1, 3, 4, 7, 8). Juvenile (8 years old based on recent studies on tooth development) (27). Incapable of speech (based on narrowing of spinal canal in thoracic region) (1)

Nickname: Turkana Boy (1), Nariokotome Boy

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=38



Source: http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/environment/eePages/eeDating/HumanEvol_info.html

1,275 posted on 07/29/2006 7:13:50 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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