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To: stands2reason; HayekRocks; freedumb2003; Junior; ThinkDifferent; Coyoteman; Dracian; hellbender; ...
Iggy: "I so hope they have the bones of the walking, talking, breathing, eating dandelions!"

That would DISPROVE evolution.

Gosh, I hope NOT! Some are saying that Evolution sez that plants and animals have a common ancestor. You have strayed from the plantation in their eyes. I hope you don't get derision piled upon you by "them" (and yes, by "them" I do mean the giant ants from the 1950's sci-fi movie).
Say-y-y-y...what is your vocation, anyway? Are you even qualified to post on this subject?
Be that as it may, anyone following my argument with critical thinking skills would reason (correctly) that the existence of Evolution is essential to my argument. Remember, I am arguing that Evolution is inadequate to 'splain, Lucy, how we arrived at what we are today. Intelligent design does do that, does it not?

Does ID at this time require faith in something science has not yet measured? Unequivocally "yes"! As does believing that there was a "Big Bang" from nothing that somehow, billions of years later, caused lightning to strike in a primordial soup (yes, I know: Evolution doesn't concern itself with primary forms. Please see "inadequate" and it's synonyms:
bare, barren, bush league, deficient, depleted, dry, failing, faulty, feeble, found wanting, glitch*, imperfect, impotent, inappreciable, inapt, incapable, incommensurate, incompetent, incomplete, inconsiderable, insubstantial, junk*, lacking, lame*, lemon*, lousy, low, meager, minus, miserly, niggardly, not enough, parsimonious, poor, scanty, scarce, short, shy*, sketchy*, skimpy*, sleazy, small, spare, sparse, sterile, stinted, stunted*, thin*, too little, unequal, unproductive, unqualified, weak) that began an abiogenesis (also called autogenesis or spontaneous generation) that resulted in a chain of incredibly lucky events that led to the evolution of every disparate kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species and that has thus far yielded an advanced, top-of-the-food-chain, creature that possesses so many nonadaptive attributes that it must be the luckiest creature in the history of Evolution to not to have become and evolutionary dead-end and survived to this day!

Why, to be so lucky defies the odds! It almost makes me believe that there was some kind of "plan" or "design" to this "evolution" theory! (now that's sarcasm)!

1,171 posted on 07/28/2006 11:26:25 PM PDT by Ignatz (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: Ignatz
Some are saying that Evolution sez that plants and animals have a common ancestor.

Yes. The common ancestor is a single-celled animal, not a dandelion, so if you find a dandelion with bones, you would disprove ToE.

1,174 posted on 07/29/2006 1:15:44 AM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Ignatz
Remember, I am arguing that Evolution is inadequate to 'splain, Lucy, how we arrived at what we are today. Intelligent design does do that, does it not?

Not really. It says no more than at some point in our history, something was designed. It does not say who designed us, why they did so, who implemented the design, how it was implemented, when it was implement. An explanation should minimally answer the questions who, when, how, and why.

1,186 posted on 07/29/2006 5:58:32 AM PDT by HayekRocks
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To: Ignatz

FWIIW, I don't think anyone said your vocation EXCLUDES you from participating in the discussion. It simply doesn't QUALIFY you for the discussion. Mine doesn't either.

But an understanding of scientific princples (such as what a "theory" is), the scinetific method, what science demands, and what TToE says and doesn't say does.

For example, the moment someone says "it's just a theory" they disqualify themselves from the discussion since they don't posess the underlying understanding of the subject at hand.

With that, abandoning thread.


1,190 posted on 07/29/2006 7:54:11 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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