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To: donh
Check out some of the abortion threads/flamewars for the claims as to the number of abortions per capita among Russia women--I have heard sources claiming as many as eight abortions.

If the sex was for procreation, instead of entertainment, they wouldn't be having so many abortions, eh?

As for the European women, you could ask Freeper GermanBusiness ;-)

I have had a number of European women co-workers who have expressly described to me their deliberate decision to refrain from having children.

And I have talked to exchange students who talked about the casual in flagrante behaviour of many college kids over there. Couple that with any number of FReeper threads about the death of the European social welfare model, and the consequent necessity to import young laborers from the Muslim world, and...voila!

Anecdotal, but not made up.

Cheers!

656 posted on 05/13/2006 10:23:55 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; GermanBusiness
Sorry, forgot the courtesy ping.

Apologies for dragging you into a crevo flamewar--I was referring to your more current experience in the dating world of Europe.

Cheers!

661 posted on 05/13/2006 10:33:52 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
If the sex was for procreation, instead of entertainment, they wouldn't be having so many abortions, eh?

Eh? Interesting, about Russian birth rates, but so what? We're talking about why nature might arm one with certain sexual instincts, which would be to help us survival in small, isolated tribes on a veldt.

But, let me point out, that instinct may be operating accurately even yet: have you ever seen a mother cat kill and eat the runt of her litter? Did you know that solitary mammal predators will frequently eat all the offspring of a litter if times seem particularly bad just then? Do you want to claim that these are bad investment strategies, genetic survival-wise? If you do, I would disagree: survival is as much about securing resources--and in humans, that could even mean philosophical/emotional/social resources as much as meat on the table--as it is about reproduction.

676 posted on 05/13/2006 11:29:29 AM PDT by donh
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