Posted on 04/19/2006 10:32:18 AM PDT by RGVTx
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I, for one, appreciate your honesty. It takes a big person to admit that what they've posted on the Natalee threads is crap.
it wasn't me who emailed pictures to Beth... but I hope the pictures she has are not the ones I stitched together earlier yesterday since we later on that evening figured out that it was not GVC in them.
Feeling badly now over the pictures because I hope they are not the ones she has. But like someone said it is hard to believe that these boys did not know each other.
On another note... Renfro (sp?) said on BOR that GVC had drugs on him when he was taken in or came in to the police station. Also she said 2 more arrests are expected and that they are co-workers of GVC's from the security company.
MSNBC reported on "Rita's Show" last night that GVC was working beach patrol the night Natalee disappeared.
Zinger stinger!!!!
Laughing out loud!!
His father was already questioned at the beginning of the case
Geoffrey van Cromvoirt detained as suspect in the case of the disappearance of Natalee
Perhaps a link to the case with uniform found in the Colony area near the sea
DIARIO Aruba
4/18/2006
ORANJESTAD(AAN): In the noon hours of this past Saturday, the Public Prosecutor acted and detained a new person in the case of the disappearance of the student Natalee Holloway.
However, it was only in the afternoon hours that this detention was leaked to the press, and it is time to know who it is.
The youngster worked at one time for the VCB Security Company, which is also in charge of the administration of the Visibility Team in Aruba.
It can still be recalled how in the month of June 2005, when the government gave half a day free to all its workers to search, that in the vicinity of the sea, close to an area where kite surfing is done, at the entrance of Colony, a uniform of VCB (Video Camara Beveiliging) was found.
At that time, they interrogated the director of this company who is the same person who is in charge of the whole camera system on the side of the big hotels, along with the Visibility Team.
This same director is the father of the youngster Geoffrey van Cromvoirt, 19 years of age (born in Holland), who was also working in his father’s company, VCB., after his sister, who also worked there, became a policewoman.
GEOFFREY WAS ‘FIRED’
DIARIO has information that Geoffrey van Cromvoirt was fired from his job because police did not want to work with him. Aside from this, Geoffrey is a good friend of Commissioner Gerold Dompig’s son, who also was working on the Visibility Team near the sea.
Both of them, according to colleagues, apparently were always talking about how they ‘had fun’ with female tourists who they met on the beach. They even said they liked to lie and say that they were police so that they could do illegal things.
Some months back, Commissioner Gerold Dompig’s son was ‘practically’ fired from the team. It is not known where Gerold Dompig’s son is working, but Geoffrey van Cromvoirt is working on the beach, near a water sports company.In other words, he is a ‘beach bum’.
Although there is no confirmation about what his role is in this case, it must be questioned if it starts with the link of the security t-shirt found on the coast near the entrance of the Colony neighbourhood. A lawyer said that on this cloth there is relevant forensic information.
The piece of clothing was a uniform similar to the one that Geoffrey himself used. More detentions can be expected in the case, although we have information that Geoffrey is not cooperating at all with authorities in this case.
On this photo of Geoffrey, from the DIARIO archives, he can be seen when his sister was sworn in as a policewoman in San Nicolas. He was standing behind his sister that day.
HIS ROLE IN THE INVESTIGATION
Many people are asking, but no one has found the answer. What do authorities really have on this youngster? There is speculation that this arrest came after the program Opsporing Verzocht passed and that it produced about 100 tips. The Public Prosecution, however, is not giving any details. They have apparently learned from experiences in the past.
Although there’s an indication that perhaps Geoffrey met Natalee before Sunday, May 29 of 2005, there are others that show that possibly he was detained as a pretext to extract information that he could have, related to the involvement of van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers.
Apart from this, still authorities still must know whose DNA was found on the toothbrush from the hotel bathroom. It was a male DNA.
In the meantime, the American and Dutch press have also paid attention to this new detention. Some are even questioning if this is a ‘show’, due to the fact that Dave Holloway’s book came out last week, containing grave accusations towards the Public Prosecution. It has even been said that when Natalee’s mother’s book comes out, that this will really sink Aruba.
CONNECTION WITH JORAN OR NOT?
Meanwhile, Joran’s attorney, Joe Tacopina, explained that his client does not know Geoffrey, although there are some details circulating to the contrary.
He indicated that they are happy that Geoffrey is an ‘unknown’ to them, and that it shows that authorities are really working on new tips and can find a solution to this.
Sunday morning, the American press started to flood the VCB Security Company with calls. In the noon hours, even their web site had been changed, where the company decided to remove a photo of Geoffrey which was on it. A photo of the father was also removed from VCB’s web site. There are even some who question if perhaps this company could have ‘manipulated’ videotapes from hotel security in van der Sloot’s favour. However, observers deny this speculation as baseless inventions.
Today, they will have to bring Geoffrey in front of the Judge Commissioner to decide If his detention will be prolonged or not. In the meantime, it is DIARIO’s understanding that Geoffrey’s interrogation continues. He is a person who is regularly seen on the side of the beach, and they have to verify if he indeed could have met with Natalee.
// posted by Getagrip @ 4/19/2006 03:16:00 PM
see I have heard that he did work with the beach patrol team but no longer does and that he worked for the water sports company now, or that he did work both but no longer works beach patrol now.
That is interesting because I heard an Aruban reporter tonight on H & C I believe state: GVC NEVER worked on beach patrol. He was not even a volunteer. He was simply known as a guy that hung around the beaches. Only his father had anything to do with "security" on the beaches.
I don't know what pictures were sent to Beth. She said that she had received a "lot" of pictures AND internet research. So take heart, I don't think your guilty of anything. CO
Did Beth hold the pix up to the camera so you could see them? Or did she show them to Crier?
John Q Kelly told Greta that the so called forensic material had no relationship to the Natalee case - NONE. That was his words because she said, none? He said "None"!! I do believe what JQK has to say. Now the Aruban's and the Dutch from Aruba, that's another story. Tacopina, that's another story also.
fox just broke in saying...
GVC's family says he is not involved in the Natalee Holloway case and GVC says he does not know any of the people who were recently connected to the case.
Natalee's mother also says that none of Natalee's friends have said that Natalee had met GVC before.
Crazy huh? As I heard that guy and watched him just tonight. He was a big guy with a red shirt on. I have no idea what to believe. The one thing that keeps nagging at me however is that I just have a feeling that ALE is attempting to SHIFT the main focus of the this investigation AWAY from JVDS AND PVDS. I'm going to wait to see what JQK has to say or what he alludes to. He certainly has not offered to drop the civil suit and in that suit he charges Joran with being a KNOWN and proveable Predator. I guess we have to wait and see as it stands now. We've been led around and around the same bush for nearly a year now and have gotten nowhere.
No, she didn't hold up anything. She simply made the statement.
From post # 84
The youngster worked at one time for the VCB Security Company, which is also in charge of the administration of the Visibility Team in Aruba
DIARIO has information that Geoffrey van Cromvoirt was fired from his job because police did not want to work with him. Aside from this, Geoffrey is a good friend of Commissioner Gerold Dompig’s son, who also was working on the Visibility Team near the sea.
It is not known where Gerold Dompig’s son is working, but Geoffrey van Cromvoirt is working on the beach, near a water sports company.In other words, he is a ‘beach bum’.
Thanks for your post in #89. I will believe that as it came from Beth. She's obviously hearing all the "rumors" too.
Thanks
see post 84
I believe the damage/cover-up control on Aruba is starting up again. This time they are covering up for GVC.
On another note this GVC kid is well off, more well off than JVS was. Fox has been showing the house that GVC's family lives in and it is about 3 times the size of VS's.
I agree with that. It was in the VAN SUSTEREN- KELLY interview transcript in post # 21 . That was just part of the article.
No, I don't recall it, but that doesn't mean it wasn't searched. There has been so much said and written about this case, that I am sure I don't remember all of it.
What we do know is that ALE didn't search Paulus' house or his cistern (also called well), only searched the detached apartment that Joran lived in, and that Paulus threw a hissy-fit when Texas Equuasheach offered to search his cistern, to clear up that issue.
Dave Holloway said something on a news show recently that the judge who would not grant the seach order had stayed at Paulus' house, and couldn't do that to his friend.
I continue to hear over and over from several sources, that he did work beach patrol. I have heard from one media outlet (Rita on MSNBC) that he was actually on duty the night she disappeared.
Now I heard tonight on BOR, that 2 others may be arrested and that they are old co-workers of GVC's from the beach patrol job. Now this all might be drug related and not really Natalee related.
It sounds to me that he is mainly in jail over drugs, and that they are questioning him about the Natalee's disappearance. (anything to put doubt into the minds of people that maybe JVS and Kalpoes didn't do anything to her and that it could have been someone else and to make it look like they are still trying to find out what happened to her.)
Thanks for all the updates, sheba.
I'll try to catch up on this thread tomorrow.
I know, I saw a picture of the HUGE pale yellow home that GVC lives in. I agree with you about covering up. Aruba has expended ALL of it's energy since the very beginning of this case in covering up. If the same amount of energy had been expended in doing a REAL investigation, the case would have been solved the first week. I'm sure of it. The fact is: Natalee Holloway left Carlos and Charlies with Joran Van der Sloot (her and Joran in the back seat) and Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe and was never seen or heard from again. PLUS, there is an FBI report that THEY saw blood in Deepak Kalpoe's car but since they were not allowed to do any of the investigating or collect evidence or send any evidence for testing, the car was thoroughly cleaned in the 9 days it took for the Aruban Law Enforcement to take it into custody and by the time they sent samples away (months later) it was "cleaning fluid and chocolate. That's how the investigation started and has followed the same bizarre path ever since.
Do you remember in the first week or so there was news of a "body"?, then whoops, "no body", then there was news of a "confession", then whoops, "no confession". Thank God Beth kept a detailed journal and their family hired much help to investigate and search. I have always been bothered by the fact that a search warrant was refused to be granted for the Van der Sloot property. Especially since they have that old cistern on it which was cemented over within 10 days. When Tim Miller politely requested of Paul VDS that he be allowed to use special equipment to search (deep penetrating search equipment) which would not disturb or mess up his property, he stated that "Paulus VDS went crazy"!! This investigative abomination started out stinking and still does. CO
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