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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread 20

Posted on 04/19/2006 10:32:18 AM PDT by RGVTx

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; croupier; dewever; excelsiorcasino; geoffrey; geoffreyvancromvoirt; gottenbosboys; guidowever; gvc; joetacopino; jorandidit; joranvandersloot; natalee; nataleeholloway; tacojoe; vancromvoirt; wever
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To: theophilusscribe

National Enquirer on Fox news - More arrests coming.... (We keep hearing this huh?)


41 posted on 04/19/2006 2:19:39 PM PDT by justche ("Art, like morality, consists of drawing a line somewhere." G. K. Chesterton)
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To: justche
Scared Monkeys Says:
April 19th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
Translated article:

http://antillen.nu/content/view/555/2/
BREDA/WILLEMSTAD (19-04-06) - Geoffrey van Cromvoirt is the son of a former policeman. His father, Willem, was eighteen years policeman in the Dutch town Breda when he decided (end 1997) to start his own business, according to the Dutch newspaper BN/De Stem.

On 1 January 1998 he started Video Camera Beveiliging (beveiliging means security), a firm which aimed at the security of companies with video systems. In 1999, his father decided to move to the Dutch Antilles. According to an ex-colleague, he started at first on Bonaire by the name VCB Security. Meanwhile the company operates at several places on the Antilles. On Aruba it’s one of the larger security companies. The Holiday Inn is one of their customers, the hotel Natalee Holloway disappeared on 30 May 2005.

SM: Is it possible that Geoffrey went to high school in Bonaire? (klaasend)
42 posted on 04/19/2006 2:23:19 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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Scared Monkeys Says:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/04/19/aruba-natalee-holloway-comment-post-11/#comments
April 19th, 2006 at 4:56 pm
Not positive how accurate this is but I found this transcript (klaasend)

Transcript: Aruban Police Report

Joran says: “You know what happened to that girl, if you don’t know, then nothing has happened to her.”
Joran keeps saying: “I will laugh if they find the girl alive, (expeltive) you.”
“I know very well that you are afraid.”
“…That is if you did something bad with the girl. And if they find the girl. then we’ll see.”
Satish: I’m not afraid. Why must I be afraid?”
Deepak: “I want them to find the girl. You’re going to talk (EXPLETIVE) about me that I have buried the girl by fisherman’s hut.”
Joran: ” Who said about burying, I said nothing about burying.”
Deepak: “That’s what you testified. Stop with that (expletive).”
Joran “I said nothing about burying. Only thing I can think of is that you know people, that it is the people from automotive enterprises.”
Satish: “Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, after I got the flat tire, huh? Yes, yes, yes, yes, I picked you up and after that I went to the beach again for her.”
Joran: “Who said that?.”
Satish: “You said that.”
Joran: “I never said that friend. I never said that you’ve been back friend. That is your problem. If they all find that girl, then they will see that (EXPLETIVE).”
The reporter says it goes on with them arguing and screaming accusing them of telling the police stuff. Joran blames them for getting his father arrested by saying “NO Body, No Crime.” If you had never said that my father wouldn’t have been involved. And after he got you a lawyer and all.
43 posted on 04/19/2006 2:27:04 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: justche

Joe Tacopino's associate just said on Abrams that Beth Twitty is in it for the money. Then she actually said "money, money, money."

The groan from the panel was audible. Yep, that's how you rehabilitate your client.

Good work Joey, you just kicked it up a notch!


44 posted on 04/19/2006 2:36:26 PM PDT by deetch (Frank)
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To: deetch

oh wow....I'll have to catch the later showing of it.


45 posted on 04/19/2006 2:55:17 PM PDT by justche ("Art, like morality, consists of drawing a line somewhere." G. K. Chesterton)
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To: deetch

I am still stewing about that comment. I'm pretty sure Beth would give every penny away - and everything she has to have her daughter back. The bimbo that said such a cruel thing - if she wasn't getting paid she'd be involved how in this???


46 posted on 04/19/2006 3:09:25 PM PDT by justche ("Art, like morality, consists of drawing a line somewhere." G. K. Chesterton)
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To: justche; All
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/

Translation by Getagrip of Bon Dia Aruba, 4/18/06

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Other reports which were able to be collected about the detention of this new figure in the mysterious Holloway case, indicates that the detention of this youngster used the charges of article 302, which means premeditated murder, but also in conjunction with 50, which is complicity to commit premeditated murder and also in conjunction with 49, which is having information related to a premeditated murder but not divulging this to solve the case.

It is also Bon Dia Aruba’s understanding that his detention is also on the basis of article 300, which is for murder, in conjunction with 50, which is complicity by not giving information about a murder.

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As of yesterday they were talking of possible ‘forensic’ evidence from a uniform of the security company which was found many months back but this information is not based on fact.
// posted by Getagrip @ 4/19/2006 05:01:00 PM
47 posted on 04/19/2006 3:30:14 PM PDT by shebacal
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To: RGVTx

Thanks for the ping TX!!


48 posted on 04/19/2006 3:31:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what a bandaid is to a cut!! - Healing)
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To: All
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/

Translation by Getagrip

How was he not brought in front of the judge as usual?

Geoffrey’s detention has to do with drug possession as well!
New suspect is represented by attorney mr. Eline Lotter-Homan
DIARIO Aruba - 4/19/2006

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ORANJESTAD(AAN): When any native son is detained, and has to be presented in front of the Judge Commissioner, according to the rules, the detained is brought to the Justice Building.

But what happened Tuesday? This was not the case. The new detainee in the Natalee’s case, Geoffrey van Cromvoirt, was not brought to the Court Building! Why? Because he is Dutch…because of this they want to protect him? This is what some people called and asked DIARIO. More than clear, the newspaper told them they better call and ask the Public Prosecutor.

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Finally, in the afternoon hours, a Judge Commissioner went to the Noord police station, where the 19 year old detainee was presented. Here, the Judge Commissioner reviewed the detention formalities, and decided that the detention was conducted legally, and the prolongation of the detention for 8 days as asked by the prosecutor is valid.

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Tuesday, in front of the Court, DIARIO interviewed attorney mr. Petrochi, who was the appointed lawyer when the new suspect in the Natalee Holloway case, Geoffrey van Cromvoirt, was detained....He said that he is no longer the attorney of this suspect. He only attended to the first part of the detention.

Now, the case of van Cromvoirt is in the hands of another attorney. Attorney Petrochi could not confirm who was the new lawyer; however, DIARIO was able to find out that it was going to be mr. Eline Lotter-Homan who will represent van Cromvoirt in this case.

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On the other hand, the details given in terms of the drug matter and Geoffrey, has made local observers immediately think more deeply. They find that this new case ‘smells very strange’.

They explained to DIARIO that if a person is suspected of crimes related to drugs from any force, or investigative team, any drug case in Holland (DIARIO does not want to mention more) and he is detained…the official asks the Judge Commissioner to search the suspect’s house from top to bottom to find any substance that has to do with drugs.

His computer is opened and they take out the innards! In his room, they let dogs smell on top and below the bed to find out if they can at least find a seed, white substance, continue to every corner of the house in order to have evidence. All this to avoid that in the future this happens in the force, so that they not fail investigators again.

But here again, clearly they have committed a flagrant error! They invited Geoffrey to come to the station, where he was then detained. Those in charge of the investigation have to come to their conclusions and take their retirement, not today, but yesterday -
// posted by Getagrip @ 4/19/2006 04:31:00 PM
49 posted on 04/19/2006 3:44:37 PM PDT by shebacal
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To: RGVTx

DING DING DING DING!!

Congrads -- you made it to 20 -- FASCINATING

Actually, in your defense there has been some noteworthy news in the last few weeks. Not 20 threads' worth, but noteworthy!


50 posted on 04/19/2006 3:46:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: freedumb2003

We've been expecting you.
You must not have read your invitation very well.
You're scheduled for post #666.
It's rude to arrive early!


51 posted on 04/19/2006 4:03:33 PM PDT by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: freedumb2003; RGVTx
Now that it has come to #20, we will undoubtedly be seeing that poster that was so fixated on #20, can't remember his name, and it's a long way back to find it.

Not to worry, though, when he sees the magic number, he will be here in a flash.
16 posted on 04/19/2006 11:27:57 AM PDT by shebacal

Congrads -- you made it to 20 -- FASCINATING
50 posted on 04/19/2006 3:46:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003

Hmmmm. Over 4 hours - what you so long to get here, guy?

52 posted on 04/19/2006 4:09:29 PM PDT by shebacal
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To: RGVTx; freedumb2003
post #666.

Is that where the 3 numbers are formed in a circle, said to represent the devil?

53 posted on 04/19/2006 4:12:38 PM PDT by shebacal
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To: shebacal

Been working.


54 posted on 04/19/2006 4:12:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: RGVTx
It's rude to arrive early!

Wait -- am I early or late?

55 posted on 04/19/2006 4:13:52 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: All
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060419/APN/604190936

Ships use sonar in new search off Aruba - April 19. 2006
By JONATHAN M. KATZ
Associated Press Writer

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The Aruban coast guard searched offshore Wednesday for missing teenager Natalee Holloway, authorities said. Officials again refused to give any details about a 19-year-old man arrested over the weekend in connection with the year-old case.

The public prosecutor's office said the coast guard was using sonar and other equipment to check an unspecified area off the Caribbean island. The search, the latest of many for the missing Alabama teen, was in its fourth day but had not previously been disclosed.

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Under the law, another hearing for the man - identified only by his initials, G.V.C. - must be held by at least April 25 if the prosecution wants to continue holding him, said Mariaine Croes, a spokeswoman for the prosecutor's office.
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Associated Press writer Margaret Wever contributed to this report.
56 posted on 04/19/2006 4:19:23 PM PDT by shebacal
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To: MAWG

I'll second that!!


57 posted on 04/19/2006 4:21:30 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what a bandaid is to a cut!! - Healing)
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To: MAWG

Ever notice how they seem to come in "flocks" and all have the same bs complaint that we are following the Natalee Holloway story. It never ceases to amaze me WHY do folks click on a thread or a subject that does not interest them? I guess just to bitch and disrupt as you say. LOL You swept up real good.


58 posted on 04/19/2006 4:24:26 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what a bandaid is to a cut!! - Healing)
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To: shebacal
The search, the latest of many for the missing Alabama teen, was in its fourth day but had not previously been disclosed.

Four days ago was last Sat when GvC was arrested. I can't take credit for making this connection; it came from a poster at:

http://websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-38697
59 posted on 04/19/2006 4:25:55 PM PDT by shebacal
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To: justche

hehehe - I thought the same thing. The "tourist" numbers just rose huh?


60 posted on 04/19/2006 4:30:01 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what a bandaid is to a cut!! - Healing)
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