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To: King Prout

"Once I recognize He is The Truth, then I must consider Him in any question, or any scientific endeavor I am involved in.
that's called "examining from a conclusion"

That is the same as using a GIVEN in any equation.


632 posted on 04/16/2006 1:03:31 AM PDT by Slingshot
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To: Slingshot

no.

a "Given" is an observed governing factor in a real situation, or a stipulated one in an hypothetical.

what you are doing ("I start with the point of view "Look, what God did." ") is exactly analogous to enviroweenies saying "Look, we all *know* that capitalistic industry is ruining the planet... let's see how we can massage our studies to support anthropogenic global warming."

It is crap science, either way.

have a *thoughtful* day.


633 posted on 04/16/2006 1:11:50 AM PDT by King Prout (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
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To: Slingshot

marker


635 posted on 04/16/2006 9:56:46 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: Slingshot; King Prout; PatrickHenry
Theists determine to prove that there is a creator through creation. Yet, when science says, "we cannot prove the existance of a creator" the theists will demand that they are being atheists and humanists. So the scientists say, "Okay, I will set out to prove the existance of a deity through sound scientific study to quantify faith.

After the ten year study is finished, the scientist submit that they find no benefit, or slight harm, in a facet of "faith" in a deity. This is unacceptable to the theists' position and they cry foul, saying science has no business sticking its nose in religion. Moreover, the study is interpreted as conclusive evidence that the deity is capricious at best which the theologian says is in the sacred texts. Further, the christian text says that Jews look for a sign while the greeks look for logic and reason but there are none given. It's a mystery: The argument is a no-win situation for the scientist from the start.

Pray tell, which is it? Science can quantify god? Science cannot quantify god?

Still, the theists are brazen. While they will not allow their sacred mysteries of their god-view to be proven (although the bible says repeatedly "prove me now this day") they do not extend the same convenient applications towards evolution. Instead, they couch evolution as a competing FAITH or RELIGION.

They investigate Darwin but balk at any investigation into Jesus, the bible, or any other sacred text.
637 posted on 04/16/2006 10:30:08 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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