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To: King Prout; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; grey_whiskers; Diamond; TXnMA; gobucks

"when you begin from the belief that every phenomenon, even diametrical opposites - health and illness, beauty and ugliness, efficiency and inefficiency, organization and entropy, diversity and specialization, excellent design and shoddy design - all point, equally and in themselves, to the self-same Creator, there is simply no way to communicate with you on the matter: When you look at things through a lens which assumes that all discrepancies can be waved off by citing a mysterious deity, you set up a shield against rational discourse which is, bluntly, more effective and impermeable than that offered by the angriest scorned teen on PMS."

The "diametrical opposites" you list are conditions and states of Man. They are not from the Creation of God. We make a problem for ourselves when we apply our situations and opposites to God. I think that most of the problems on Earth come from the decisions of Men and Women, not God. He is constantly trying to get us through a problem not make the problem. We don't Trust Him we trust ourselves. "We have met the enemy and He is Us."

I do not start with the proposition to figure How God did anything. I start with the point of view "Look, what God did."

I am in agreement that we should examine and do research to understand How things work together. You see, Everything I know points me to what God Said, "I am in everything and everything is in me."

It is stated in IJohn that God is Light.

Well now isn't that interesting. We really don't know what light is. We know some things about Light. And there are somethings about Light we don't know.
What if that part Could be God.

The smallest particle of light that is known so far is called a photon. Photons are part of an electron. That means God is in Everything, Plus He has created the Universe. Everything is in Him.

What else is He doing?

You see nothing I have said disagrees with the scientific Method. It may disagree with some scientist.

Now for icing on the cake.
"EMPIRICISM CAN NOT ASSESS A DIVINE ENTITY WHO SUPPOSEDLY CAN DO ANY THING HE SHE OR IT WANTS WITHOUT LEAVING A TRACE; TRYING TO DO SO WOULD BE FUTILE, SO IT DOES NOT BOTHER TRYING."

I am not seeking to asses a Divine Entity. I am seeking to assess what has been created by that entity. You don't start with electricity and have to define it. You just know How to use it. I would expect the same tratment for God.

I call into question that The actions of God leave no trace.

I have never known a true scientist that considers things futile and does not bother to assess something because he can not define it.

I am in touch with several scientists who invent things of great magnitude. Everything they are doing calls in to question many of the "Laws of Nature" used by scientists.

I have used instruments in the military that were said to be impossible in universities in this country. I am now working with a scientist that can take salt water and produce clean water and Hydrogen and Oxygen. He is useing a small amount of electricity to do this and yet he produces 10 MWh of electricity, 1,000,000 gallons of water. No Pressure or heat.
Now most engineers will tell you that is impossible because he is not putting in enough Energy to produce 10 MWh of Energy.

What he does is Energize Photons. They do the work. To energize Photons means to increase acceleration or frequency. E=MC2 A small amout of increase in frequency is squared and produces much more energy than you put in.

I am saying through all of this that what is called scientific is very often hard headed ness. When real scientists use the scientific method and put all vectors into the formula, then we have greater discoveries.

Discoveries= finding out about something that already existed or using an existing concept in a different way.

Have a good day.


631 posted on 04/16/2006 12:57:43 AM PDT by Slingshot
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To: Slingshot
The smallest particle of light that is known so far is called a photon. Photons are part of an electron.

grey_whiskers comment: !!

Sorry, you asked for it:

A petunia is a flower just like a begonia
A begonia is a meat just like a sausage.
A-sausage and battery is a crime.
Monkeys crime trees.
Trees is a crowd.
The rooster crowd and made a lot of noise.
The noise is between the eyes.
Eyes are the opposite of nays.
A horse nays.
A horse also has a colt.
You may go to bed sometime with the window open and wake up with a colt if you're not careful!

Cheers!

641 posted on 04/16/2006 6:27:20 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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