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Military.com ^ | February 13, 2006 | Frank Gaffney

Posted on 02/19/2006 5:07:48 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow

How would you feel if, in the aftermath of 9/11, the U.S. government had decided to contract out airport security to the United Arab Emirates (UAE), the country where most of the operational planning and financing of the attacks occurred? My guess is you, like most Americans, would think it a lunatic idea, one that could clear the way for still more terror in this country. You probably would want to know who on earth approved such a plan -- and be determined to prevent it from happening.


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KEYWORDS: frankgaffney; homelandsecurity; ports; stoopidideas; uae
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To: Pukin Dog

So what is your reason for supporting the notion that its OK for foreign governments to operate US maritime assets?


41 posted on 02/19/2006 5:46:44 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Pukin Dog; Stellar Dendrite
Some of us have been trying to share the facts of this deal for 2 days now,...

In your case...Fact = "Pro-Bush Talking Point with NO proof or site to back up the words that come out of your bottom".

Didn't I read in Post 19 you gave up? Don't you have another Opus to write?

42 posted on 02/19/2006 5:47:54 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Cicero
I understand what you're saying. The previous owners naturally wanted to sell out to the highest bidders. But that doesn't mean that we had to approve it.

It would be a bit hypocritical since DPWorld met all the regulations and have a worldwide reputation as a well run company that recruits the best western talent.

Frankly, I think our country has made a long-term mistake not doing a better job of developing a native merchant marine and domestic ports and shipbuilding. We've let the big unions cripple and kill our ports.

I agree, but what's the solution. Everybody is up in arms over an above board perfectly legitimate business transaction by a country whose ports host more US navy ships than any non-US port.

43 posted on 02/19/2006 5:48:41 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Pukin Dog; Stellar Dendrite; Czar
You just went from Freeper to "OBL Shill" in the span of 15 minutes.

Nah, Dane is an OBL shill from WAY back.

44 posted on 02/19/2006 5:49:17 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Pukin Dog
It is a stunning thing to watch how misinformation can get out of control, and how so many people will buy it hook, line and sinker if it matches up with their prevailing viewpoint

PT Barnum was right, there is a sucker born every minute.

45 posted on 02/19/2006 5:50:21 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Your question is bogus, because no foreign governments have ever operated U.S. Maritime assets and they never will. The fact that some of you have taken the words 'port operator' to mean what YOU THINK it means, instead of taking the time to find out what it means in reality, is your problem. I have no intention of arguing the matter further. The facts are out there if you want to learn them.
46 posted on 02/19/2006 5:50:25 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Dane
Don't you think there is a little bit of difference between a London based company and one owned and based in the United Arab Emirates? Or do you just believe any one company is as good as another?

It doesn't matter who was involved in the takeover of P&O by DPW, it only matters that it did happen. And now that it has happened DPW's potential control of the Ports is unacceptable. Or do you think that money is the only thing that matters, security be damned?

BTW, I was and am plenty outraged at Clintons' giving former Long Beach Naval Shipyard to the Communist Chinese military (COSCO Shipping). It should have never happened. We don't know what comes through that terminal now.
47 posted on 02/19/2006 5:52:47 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: Dane
Well, Barnum was right.

But it is very disturbing to watch this happen right before my eyes.
48 posted on 02/19/2006 5:53:30 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Dane
If Pukin Dog approves (sarc.), there are several articles and a film clip with interviews on this currently posted on foxnews.com. If you're lucky, the clip will start with a "godaddy.com" commercial.

Whoops! I almost forget. The "Dog" doesn't like FNC because while it is conservative, it's not "blindly loyal" to the administration. Santotum is wrong. Graham, Foley, King and LoBionda are wrong. Michelle Malkin and the rest of the conservative blogs are wrong. We're all wrong. Only the Dog and enough FReepers to fit in a phone booth (if you can find one) are right on this!
50 posted on 02/19/2006 5:54:20 PM PST by BW2221
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To: rottndog
It doesn't matter who was involved in the takeover of P&O by DPW, it only matters that it did happen. And now that it has happened DPW's potential control of the Ports is unacceptable. Or do you think that money is the only thing that matters, security be damned?

Uh security is not being damned and you know that despite the rantings of Gaffney, Malkin, and michael weiner(savage).

Nothing is going to change, DHS is still in charge of security and DPWorld is not running the ports.

51 posted on 02/19/2006 5:56:15 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: rottndog
We don't know what comes through that terminal now.

Wal Mart does, why don't you ask them?

There was always the risk of this, I suppose. The War on Terror now has FReepers looking for Usama under every mattress, in every ship, on every airplane, and up in every tree.

52 posted on 02/19/2006 5:56:35 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Dane
PT Barnum was right, there is a sucker born every minute.

If there is no problem with the UAE takeover, explain exactly why.

A)What exactly does P&O do?

B)Will having UAE in control in ANY way affect port security, and if so, why should the deal be allowed?

53 posted on 02/19/2006 5:56:48 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: Dane; Cicero; Stellar Dendrite
It would be a bit hypocritical since DPWorld met all the regulations and have a worldwide reputation as a well run company that recruits the best western talent.

Read that as "It would be a bit hypocritical since DPWorld met all the regulationsbought off all the right people and have a worldwide reputation as a well run company that recruits the best western talent pays for it's Dhimmis and shills well in it's pursuit of furthering Islam's goals."

54 posted on 02/19/2006 5:57:18 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: BW2221
If you wish to characterize what I like or don't like, I suggest you ask me. Don't be a jerk.
55 posted on 02/19/2006 5:57:39 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Santorum was on KDKA Friday having a cow about this matter.


56 posted on 02/19/2006 5:58:11 PM PST by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: ozoneliar
A)What exactly does P&O do?

B)Will having UAE in control in ANY way affect port security, and if so, why should the deal be allowed?

They load and unload containers. The security protocaols are already in place and they won't change even if the port container company was from Mars.

57 posted on 02/19/2006 5:58:54 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Sweetjustusnow
It was unbelievably stupid and I support Clinton and Schumer's legislation to ban such a move. Its a sad day when Democrats do the right thing every now and then. What the hell was the Administration thinking in turning the management of American ports over to a foreign country? We're a sovereign nation and its OUR responsibility to oversee points of entry and exit into the United States. For me as an American, its a bedrock principle.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

58 posted on 02/19/2006 5:59:18 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Itzlzha
Read that as "It would be a bit hypocritical since DPWorld met all the regulationsbought off all the right people and have a worldwide reputation as a well run company that recruits the best western talent pays for it's Dhimmis and shills well in it's pursuit of furthering Islam's goals."

Prove it.

59 posted on 02/19/2006 6:00:06 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Itzlzha; Dane; Stellar Dendrite
"Nah, Dane is an OBL shill from WAY back."

And quite proud of it, too.

60 posted on 02/19/2006 6:01:17 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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